They keep trying, but it’s harder for the feds to get away with their nonsense

You may have heard that the USPS recently issued a memo to newspapers in Oregon stating that it’s illegal to mail pieces with advertisements for marijuana because it’s Schedule 1.

Now members of Congress are demanding answers.

Lawmakers Question Postal Service About Marijuana Ad Threats to Newspapers by Tom Angell

A group of members of Congress is demanding the U.S. Postal Service explain a memo it recently issued warning newspapers not to mail any publications containing advertisements for marijuana. […]

“Regardless of how you feel about our failed prohibition of marijuana, every American should agree that the U.S. Postal Service should not be censoring what is or is not published in newspapers,” Blumenauer, who has led House efforts to allow medical cannabis access for military veterans, told Marijuana.com via email. […]

The lawmakers say they want the postmaster general to answer several questions, such as whether USPS intends the memo to have legal effect in all 50 states. “If not, is it customary for individual districts to create their own policies that may contradict how other districts are operating?” they ask. “What discretion does a regional postmaster have in enforcing or implementing these policies, specifically in states where marijuana is legal?” […]

The letter ends with an ominous question possibly intended to uncover evidence the Department of Justice isn’t abiding by Congress’s medical marijuana interference ban. “Did the USPS cooperate with anyone at DEA or DOJ in establishing this policy? If so, please detail the nature of this cooperation.”

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56 Responses to They keep trying, but it’s harder for the feds to get away with their nonsense

  1. Frank W. says:

    I smell a Grassley.

  2. jean valjean says:

    Pure desperation. The Federal letter gangs are reaching out for any straw they can clutch onto including banking,the V.A., transport and USPS to try to make life as difficult as possible for cannabis commerce. Like countless other examples of them taking their ball home in a snit, this one will fail too, but in the meantime many more bodies will be fed into the prohibitionist machine. Like Joe McCarthy before them, they have no shame.

    • claygooding says:

      All those federal employees in DC drink and eat in the same watering holes and belong to the same unions.

      I can’t find the break down of the ONDCP budget that showed how much each federal agency recvd for participating in the WOsD but I bet the USPS is on the list,,which puts them under the federal regulations in the most need of overturning,,besides the CSA,,,

      http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/drug-czar-required/

  3. Servetus says:

    On March 3, 1873, the Comstock law was passed for the “Suppression of Trade in, and Circulation of, Obscene Literature and Articles of Immoral Use”. Articles of immoral use at the time included “erotica, contraceptives, abortifacients, sex toys, or any information regarding the above items.” The objective of the law was to target:

    …pornography, contraceptive equipment, and such educational materials as descriptions of contraceptive methods and other reproductive health-related materials. Of particular note were advertisements for abortifacients found in penny papers, which offered pills to women as treatment for “obstruction of their monthly periods.” [4]

    Comstock’s ideas of what is “obscene, lewd, or lascivious” were quite broad. During his time of greatest power, some anatomy textbooks were prohibited from being sent to medical students by the United States Postal Service. [5][…]

    The prohibition of devices advertised for the explicit purpose of birth control was not overturned for another eighteen years. During World War I, U.S. Servicemen were the only members of the Allied forces sent overseas without condoms.

    A far more professional approach by Ms. Brennan would have been to alert Congress to a conflict of certain postal laws with regard to the medical marijuana industry, hopefully prompting a legislative change by Congress at some point.

    In the meantime, a lot of laws on the books don’t get enforced anymore. They’re sometimes called ‘blue laws’, in reference to Comstockery. There is no legitimate reason for Ms. Brennan to enforce archaic postal laws, or to wave anti-marijuana flags.

  4. SCOTUS has a long history of rulings that make exceptions to the bill of rights. Dating back to the rulings over the commerce clause and Gonzales v. Raich we have carved out exceptions for the purpose of fighting a war on drugs.

    If there is a slippery slope its the prohibition of marijuana under schedule one. Makes things complicated. Now we have the Post Office thinking they can have the final word over advertising practices in the USA.

    Has anyone considered the actual number of citizens of the US that are in violation of the Commerce clause and susceptible to Federal search for growing medicine in their bedroom?

    At least we had an 18th amendment to repeal when we decided it was improper for the government to prohibit alcohol. Now seems we have decided that an amendment is unnecessary to prohibit marijuana since we can do it by way of the back door to the bill of rights (the commerce clause), and schedule one from the DEA.

    Do we now need a separate amendment to the constitution for marijuana like we did with the 21st amendment and alcohol?

    It might possibly be more effective to re-instate the bill of rights that we dismantled under the disguise of fighting a war on drugs.

    Otherwise, if we can have federal access to the house plants in every American home I guess we can also have the post office running the country’s advertising.

    It makes no sense, but neither does the war on drugs and the governments involvement in running it.

  5. Duncan20903 says:

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    Same old shit, different day. It has gotten me thinking of the time when the DC Metro NORML Secretary suffered a violent home invasion at the hands of the Fairfax County Police also seized every doggone file of the Chapters files.

    The day after the bust I went over to FCPD HQ and demanded the return of our records. They just said “get out of here kid you’re bothering me” or words to that effect.

    On then second day I went and got us a lawyer. I even talked him into taking the case pro bono. (William Moffit heck of a lawyer, now deceased). Well that wasn’t too much effort because he was a crusader. He also got WMATA to say uncle for us. They were more determined than the police because it took 9 business days before they agreed to allow our advertising happened. Neither did they provide door service.

    On the third day the Fairfax County police delivered the records to me. Now that part I very much enjoyed. I don’t know how Mr. Moffitt managed to get the cops to agree to providing door service. He was indeed a miracle worker.
    http://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2009/04/william-b-moffitt-criminal-defense-lawyer-dies.html(PS: I do know that the FCPD very likely had a copy machine in their administrative offices.)

  6. Spirit Wave says:

    They’ll do anything to get their drug prohibition fix.

  7. QuaxMercy says:

    Mexico to Hold National Debate on Cannabis Legalization

    There will be five debates, held around Mexico in January, examining different aspects of the issue.

    I’ve been advocating for something like this since Dr. Sanjay Gupta came around two years ago. I’d trust him to moderate the discussion.

    Sure there’s been progress, but it’s only made me more antsy as I see daily evidence that the locked-down intransigence of the alphabet agencies, as well as the meddlesome shenanighans of knownothing state legislatures still holds sway and Grassley pays no price, though he stalls,stalls, stalls.

  8. allan says:

    OT…

    the first person I thought about when I read this was Pete.

    http://artandeverythingafter.com/i-fit-the-description/

  9. Servetus says:

    60 Minutes, Sunday, Dec. 6 at 7 p.m. ET/PT, will be airing a piece about Rachel Hoffmann and “Young people going undercover on the war on drugs.” A bit late, but useful.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/controversial-use-of-young-people-going-undercover-in-war-on-drugs/

    • DdC says:

      Drug Worriers disposable tools, who happen to be kids.
      Whatever happened to Re-Cycling? Too Liberal?

      Throwaways

    • thelbert says:

      it’s very informative to hear the police response when their informant was found in the river with a bullet in his head and a backpack full of rocks: he comitted suicide. he died doing the nark’s dirty work, yet no big funeral, no bagpipes playing “amazing grace”, no eulogy from the drug task force’s chief. nothing but weasel words.

      • Servetus says:

        The revelations of entrapment and overwhelming stupidity within campus drug enforcement derailed a few careers. The attraction of authoritarian followers to drug enforcement needed to be seen to be appreciated … “we were only following orders.”

        The elephant in the room was the need for informants. When no complaining victim comes forward to name or accuse a criminal defendant, then voluntary or coerced informants became an absolute necessity to make a case. Eliminate the informant’s role in drug enforcement, and you will eliminate drug enforcement.

  10. DdC says:

    Money, Not Morals, Drives Marijuana Prohibition Movement

    The biggest players in the anti-marijuana legalization movement are pharmaceutical, alcohol and beer companies, private prison corporations and police unions, all of whom help fund lobby groups that challenge marijuana law reform.

    ☛ Corrections Corporations of America
    $1 million a year
    ☛ Partnership for Drug-Free Kids…are Purdue Pharma
    makers of the painkiller OxyContin
    ☛ Abbott Laboratories, which produces the opioid Vicodin. Community Anti-Drug Coalitions of America, or CADCA, a Virginia-based anti-drug organization also receives donations from Purdue Pharma, as well as Janssen Pharmaceutical, a subsidiary of Johnson and Johnson that manufactures the painkiller Nucynta.
    The Nation.

    The Top Five Special Interest Groups
    Lobbying To Keep Marijuana Illegal

    republicreport April 20, 2012

    1.) Police Unions:
    2.) Private Prisons Corporations:
    3.) Alcohol and Beer Companies
    4.) Pharmaceutical Corporations:
    5.) Prison Guard Unions:

    John Lovell is a lobbyist who makes a lot of money from making sure you can’t smoke a joint. That’s his job. He’s a lobbyist for the police associations in Sacramento, and he is a driving force behind grabbing Federal dollars to shut down the California marijuana industry.

    Marijuana Foes:
    10 Organizations That Oppose Legalization of Pot

    newsmax 31 Mar 2015
    1. CALM: Citizens Against Legalizing Marijuana
    2. SAM: Smart Approaches to Marijuana
    3. Partnership for Drug-Free Kids
    4. Police Unions
    5. Save Our Society from Drugs
    6. Drug Free America Foundation
    7. Office of National Drug Control Policy
    8. Parents Opposed to Pot
    9. American Society of Addiction Medicine
    10. Community Anti-Drug Coalition of America

    The Real Reason Pot Is Still Illegal

    People in the United States, a country in which painkillers are routinely overprescribed, now consume more than 84 percent of the entire worldwide supply of oxycodone and almost 100 percent of hydrocodone opioids. In Kentucky, to take just one example, about one in fourteen people is misusing prescription painkillers, and nearly 1,000 Kentucky residents are dying every year.

    So it’s more than a little odd that CADCA and the other groups leading the fight against relaxing marijuana laws, including the Partnership for Drug-Free Kids (formerly the Partnership for a Drug-Free America), derive a significant portion of their budget from opioid manufacturers and other pharmaceutical companies.

  11. Duncan20903 says:

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    I know that everybody is chomping at the bit to have the opportunity to vote for Bernie Sanders. Well here’s your chance. It may not help to get him elected but he’s currently leading the voting for Time magazine’s Person of the Year. It isn’t even close.

    Bernie Sanders Keeps Strong Lead in TIME Person of the Year Poll
    12/3/2015

    With less than four days until TIME’s Person of the Year poll closes, Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders is holding on to a strong lead over some of 2015’s most influential people.

    The Vermont Senator had 10.5% of the vote in the reader poll as of Thursday morning, well ahead of Malala Yousafzai, who is in second place at 5.2%
    /snip/

  12. thelbert says:

    this might be an interesting site: http://www.veteransformedicalmarijuana.org/, haven’t read any of it yet, but looks promising.

    • DdC says:

      #Veterans Can Get All Of These Drugs To Treat #PTSD,
      But Not Weed
      #MME ‏@MME_SACRAMENTO
      via #HuffPostPol

      Psychedelic Mushrooms Help Grow New Brain Cells,
      Could Cure Depression & PTSD

      Ganja 4 PTSD & Depression
      ☮ Veterans for Medical Marijuana Access
      ☮ Military Veterans Say Pot Eases PTSD
      ☮ Veterans Form Pro-Legal Marijuana Group
      ☮ On Afghan War 11th Anniversary
      ☮ VA prescribes/opposes addictive drugs for PTSD
      ☮ Why U.S. Vets Are Fighting for Medical Marijuana
      ☮ PTSD Sufferers Qualify for Medical Marijuana
      ☮ Republican State Senator blocks PTSD study
      ☮ 300000 Iraq & Afghan Vets Suffer PTSD & Depression
      ☮ PTSD People and Passive Aggressive People… a toxic mix
      ☮ Why are Soldiers Dying in Their Sleep?
      ☮ Did Big Pharma Influence Colorado’s Decision
      to Reject Medical Marijuana for PTSD?
      ☮ Ganja Eases Traumatic Memories

      White House: No marijuana for PTSD 7/18/2012

  13. Servetus says:

    On December 1, Human Rights Watch (HRW) issued a 159-page public indictment, entitled, “No More Excuses: A Roadmap to Justice for CIA Torture”. HRW is targeting the following individuals for war crimes prosecution:

    US officials who created, authorized, and implemented the CIA program should be among those investigated for conspiracy to torture as well as other crimes. They include: Acting CIA General Counsel John Rizzo, Assistant Attorney General for Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) Jay Bybee, OLC Deputy Assistant Attorney General John Yoo, an individual identified as “CTC Legal” in the Senate Summary, CIA Director George Tenet, National Security Legal Advisor John Bellinger, Attorney General John Ashcroft, White House Counsel Legal Advisor Alberto Gonzales, Counsel to the Vice President David Addington, Deputy White House Counsel Timothy Flanigan, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, Defense Department General Counsel William Haynes II, Vice President Dick Cheney, and President George W. Bush. In addition, James Mitchell and Bruce Jessen, CIA psychologist contractors who devised the program, proposed it to the CIA, and helped carry it out, should also be investigated for their role in the initial conspiracy.

    We believe there is also sufficient evidence to investigate others who were not necessarily part of the initial conspiracy but who later joined it. Individuals can join an already existing conspiracy if they are aware of the conspiracy’s unlawful aims, in this case torture, and take steps intended to help the conspiracy succeed. These would include those who reauthorized the program after the legal memos endorsing it—the “Torture Memos”— were withdrawn, those who supplied false information to the Justice Department upon which the Justice Department relied in providing reauthorization, and those who later oversaw operation of the CIA program.

    It’s a great start, but this needs to be a multi-frontal assault. I suggest a HRW co-front entitled: “No more Excuses: A Roadmap to Justice for CIA Heroin and Crack Dealing in Inner-City Neighborhoods”. The evidence?

    SPREAD OF THE PLAGUE

    The appearance of these firms testifies not only to the expanding covert activities of the CIA but also the enormous growth of the heroin industry. In 1967, the Haight-Ashbury Medical Clinic in San Francisco opened a special section for heroin addicts. Of the addicts served by the clinic, about 25 percent (classed as “old-style junkies”) had first used heroin before January 1964; about 20 percent (classed as “transitional junkies”) first used heroin between then and January 1967; and the remaining 55 percent or so were “new junkies,” who began to use heroin after January 1967.[31] Heroin was also the drug at the heart of the problem that President Nixon cited in 1969, when he laid out a ten-point plan for reducing illegal drug use-an effort for which New York was the proving ground. “New York City alone has records of some 40,000 heroin addicts, and the number rises between 7,000 and 9,000 a year,” Nixon wrote in his July 14, 1969, message to Congress. “These official statistics are only the tip of an iceberg whose dimensions we can only surmise.”[32] – “Operation Gladio: The Unholy Alliance between the Vatican, The CIA, and the Mafia”, Paul L. Williams, (2015), pp. 85-6.

    The CIA/Mafia connection targeted the hippies and flower children in the Haight. We will need a list of drug war criminals, and it’s going to be a long one.

  14. Jon says:

    DdC, I have to take exception to your claim that painkillers are overprescribed. The opposite is in fact more true in the vast majority of the country. The undertreatment of pain because of fear of the DEA is by orders of magnitude more common than the overtreatment.
    You want to think about pill mills. Let me tell you something about the *real* pill mills (which by and large don’t exist anymore, but set the stereotype). Normal people do not go to them. It’s a doctors office with a 4-8 hour wait, rarely accepts insurance, and is filled with shady characters. Many have their own or tightly affiliates pharmacies. The guy on trial as the FL clinic kingpin? His doctors would not give you a script, you HAD to go to their pharmacy. Their pharmacy was nothing but empty shelves with boxes and boxes filled with painkillers, benzos, and nothing else, was also cash only, and the windows were barred and there were 3 armed guards in the very small space. (There’s flat out criminal places too; where a doctor writes scripts for a bunch of names for each gang/crew member, but these aren’t open to the public like a FL pain clinic).
    Junkies flocked to these. Normal people would run for the hills.
    The fact it’s “easy” to get Vicodin or even Percocet for fairly mild pain is how it should be; and sometimes it’s even hard to get those. But people with serious pain that lasts more than a few weeks, and people actually addicted recreationally don’t want these, because anything more than the lowest level of tolerance and the added acetaminophen becomes a serious risk of liver failure.
    People with serious pain need, and serious addicts want, opiates without the acetaminophen. And good luck getting those. Millions suffer in agony because doctors are scared to prescribe anything stronger than Percocet. They’ll usually have to go to a pain specialist, something rare outside of a couple places. If they don’t have rock-solid hard proof of their pain, forget it. Can’t afford the copays and deductibles for a huge amount of tests? Forget it. Don’t want to have to come back every 30 days? Forget it. Not a senior? Even if you pass all the above, few doctors operate under any philosophy besides fearing addiction so much that the goal is to only give just enough that you’re not screaming and only crying. Because now doctors are even being convicted of murder for a junkie who swallows a 30-day supply at once.

    Get to know a few people with chronic pain, it’s very rare you’ll find someone who’s being adequately treated.
    And we don’t consume most opiates because we’re overprescribed, it’s that outside of the first world there is almost zero pain treatment, even for horrific injuries.

    • DdC says:

      Jon, I agree. I’ve seen limits put on by the DEA first hand.

      You need to take it up with the Nation’s Lee Fang who wrote the article and used that sentence. With the other sentences in the article. Then get off of your high horse with me. I don’t need your scolding after your mistake in claiming I wrote it. The point of the post was that cannabis is safer in all aspects than any opioid. I’ve done hospice work for 25 years and your bait and switch cherry picking doesn’t mean a thing. Same as drug worriers switching topics. Just because the DEA causes pain by limiting patients dosages. Doesn’t mean others aren’t over dosing due to the pain, and too much at one time causes death.

      Nothing further to say about it. Don’t blame the paper boy because you’re frustrated with the news.

  15. NorCalNative says:

    Jon, as a chronic pain patient (totally disabled on SSI) your experience is valid to an extent but your knowledge is dated.

    …”Get to know a few people with chronic pain, it’s very rare you’ll find someone who’s being adequately treated.”

    This may be true in Florida, but it’s certainly NOT in California with its almost 20-years of MMJ. See NORML’s website for the states with MMJ seeing reductions in both opiate use and opiate-related fatalities.

    I live with chronic pain. I’ve got one hip replacement and could use another one. I’ve got pain and numb fingers and hand due to pinched nerves in my neck. I’ve got post-surgical pain from a knee operation, and that’s just for starters.

    When I was using morphine (20-year-dependence) I kept a “diary of defecation” a real-shitter of a job, so I wouldn’t repeat my ER trip for constipation.

    Opiates don’t really add to quality-of-life even if they offer some pain relief. Cannabis may offer LESS pain relief but it has a tool which makes it the better drug-of-choice for many patients.

    Why? Pain is an emotional experience. Separating symptoms—from—suffering, is HUGE! Cannabis has the ability to rework the brain’s interpretation of pain into a less emotionally demanding state.

    Separation of symptoms from suffering. Approximately the same levels of pain, but one approach keeps anger and emotions always churning, the other approach is one of acceptance and personal growth which allows someone some really important mental peace and quality-of-life.

    My doctor called me his “fittest patient.” Think about that. I’m totally disabled and I’m his “fittest patient.”

    The reason is simple, I use cannabis oils. I ride a bicycle for transportation. I can’t even get my leg over the damn seat, I have to put the bike on the ground. But, once I’m rolling I’m cool.

    Separate the symptoms from suffering and get on with life. Full extract cannabis oils.

    I agree doctors are dicks for under-prescribing, but they’re bigger dicks for not replacing opiates with cannabis oil recommendations.

    BTW, DdC’s point is right-on-the-money. The US is over-medicated with opiates even though there are pockets and patients being under-medicated.

    North America (Canada and the US) uses approximately 60% of the entire world’s supply of opiate medication. Do we have more pain than the rest of the world?

    Jon, there’s just too many people with access to cannabis oils that are saying NO to opiate medications to consider this a fluke.

    The endocannabinoid system has a role to play in healing America and the world. I hope you find the relief you seek. Sorry about the conservative anti-science status of your state, it’s a political problem more than a medical one.

  16. Servetus says:

    In an updated (x2) news release, good cops exposed bad cops (white supremacists) in Dothan, Alabama, in a marijuana arrest scandal that includes the collusion of District Attorney Doug Valeska. This may be bigger than Tulia.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/12/1/1455879/-AL-Police-Officers-Whistleblow-on-Supremacists-in-Dept-who-Planted-Evidence-on-1000s-of-Black-Men

  17. Duncan20903 says:

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    Pueblo County Colorado has published a list which details some of the horrific consequences of cannabis re-legalization:

    Pueblo County approves more than $2 million of marijuana expenditures

    PUEBLO – Pueblo County Commissioners approved their 2016 budget today, which includes sixteen community projects funded by more than $2 million in marijuana revenue.

    “Voters often ask where the marijuana revenue is being spent. Because of the passage of ballot measures 1B and 1C, Pueblo County has a very defined list of projects that will be funded by this new revenue stream. From parks, to the Southwest Chief to funding research based marijuana impact grants, the Board of Commissioners passed a budget that spells out clearly where marijuana revenue will be spent in 2016,” Pueblo County Commissioner Sal Pace said.

    The Pueblo County Board of County Commissioners passed the marijuana excise tax and marijuana excess revenue and spending projections Monday as part of the 2016 budget.

    The projects and their estimated costs are listed below:

    Excess marijuana revenue expenditures

    McHarg Park pavilion installation $12,000
    Runyon Sports Complex Improvements $75,000
    Rye Mountain Park Pavilion and Playground Improvements $50,000
    Liberty Point trails Rehabilitation $10,000
    John Arellano Park Landscaping Improvements $1,000
    Total $148,000

    Excise tax expenditures
    State Fair streetscape improvements $500,000
    Safe Routes to School grant matching dollars (North Mesa) $400,000
    Medical marijuana research $220,000
    Desert Hawk Golf Course (Golf carts, expansion) $200,000
    SW Chief Engineering, Ridership studies & Tiger Match $150,000
    Arts Center planning (3 years at $25,000 per year) $25,000
    Highway 50 Impact Study $50,000
    Marijuana impact grant (CSU-Pueblo Economic study) $50,000
    Zinno Subdivision water supply needs $100,000
    Energy Impact Coordinator funding (FTE) $150,000
    Beulah Elementary $30,000
    Total $1.875,000

    An additional $200,000 of marijuana tax revenue will go toward road improvements in Pueblo West Metro District.

    Pueblo County voters approved the excise tax on exported marijuana in the November 2015 election. Excise tax collections are estimated to add up to $700,000 next year.

    Another measure approved in November allows Pueblo County to keep excess marijuana tax revenues. The county collected $148,000 in 2015 to spend in 2016.

    Starting in 2017, Pueblo County will be required to save half of the excise tax collections into a scholarship fund. The scholarships will be awarded in fall of 2017.

    • Hope says:

      That’s wonderful. At the top of the list of good things…no home invasions by government. Fewer lives ruined by unjust laws and law enforcement. I’m so glad.

  18. Servetus says:

    Cliff Kincaid is at it again, this time claiming the President should be impeached because Obama once smoked pot and is therefore ‘mentally ill’.

    December 8, 2015 — He said Obama “started a few pot-smoking trends,” suggesting the future president understood ways to make the “high” from the drug even more powerful and lasting. One method they used was to smoke dope in a car and then inhale or suck in what was left of the smoke in the ceiling of the car.

    What Maraniss leaves out of his book on Obama is the role played by Obama’s mentor, Communist Party member Frank Marshall Davis, another dope smoker who probably gave the young Barry some tips on inhaling the drug for full effect. Davis, a pedophile, probably also taught young Barry about experimenting with sex.

    It is worth recalling that when he ran for office, Obama refused to release his complete medical records. Instead, a sympathetic doctor merely released a 276-word “summary,” claiming he was in excellent health. – Cliff Kincaid

    Kincaid needs his own mental health checkup. The bats in his belfry are rabid.

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/cliff-kincaid-obama-mentally-ill-due-past-pot-use-and-must-be-impeached

    • Doom Metal says:

      The Communist dope smoker stereotype is bullshit. Commies prefer smoking cigars and drinking champagne in their limos.

    • kaptinemo says:

      The inverse law applies: the closer we are to victory, the shriller and outright crazier the prohibs will sound.

      Right on cue. Thank you, Mr. Kincaid, for proving my hypothesis. All that’s needed now is some good ol’ fashioned glossolalia. Or, maybe, just a primal scream will suffice.

      Prohibs, in the future, when you feel your Inner Freak about to make an appearance, try to keep the foaming and the flying spittle to a minimum, please; none of us are dressed properly for your version of Gallagher’s Sledgomatic.

      • Duncan20903 says:

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        What in the world are you talking about kaptin? That was positively subdued for Mr. Kincaid. Especially since he should be waxing psychotic about the Planned Parenthood perpetrator. Is he giving that wacko a free walk because he targeted people who Mr. Kincaid would murder if he wasn’t such a wuss?

        Let’s not forget to mention how stupid the suggestion is when we consider the fact that there just isn’t enough time to complete impeachment proceedings before Mr. Obama’s term expires.

        But still this is truly terrifying. How has Mr. Kincaid managed to avoid capture for such a long period of time? Oh wait, I know that answer! It’s because the police are too busy arresting people in possession of unauthorized vegetation…duh.

        • Duncan20903 says:

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          I feel compelled to apologize, it appears that Mr. Kincaid has not spared the perpetrator of the Colorado Planned Parenthood tragedy from his psychotic babbling. I need to remember that extremist goofballs like Mr. Kincaid can attack several targets in a week but only that his most deranged babbling gets through my filters. I don’t see any point in tracking his opinions closely. There’s really nothing to be done about him or people who are similar. He’s certainly not going to listen to reason and neither will anyone that agrees with his opinions. I think it highly likely that just about anyone with a modicum of common sense and an IQ in excess of 80 will discount him as an idiot lunatic based on his published regurgitations. Heck, if only all of the “mainstream” prohibitionists were like him I believe that cannabis law reform would be a done deal decades ago. I have enough GI tract discomfort in my life and don’t need to read the rantings of madmen like Mr. Kincaid to add any more.

          If you for whatever reason feel a need for some self flagellation take a look at the comments under his column reprinted in Canada Free Press. Silly me didn’t realize that a publication which included “free press” in its name might be a bastion of right wing idiot prohibitionist extremism.

        • allan says:

          good old Cliff. Maybe he’s trying to take up the slack for Calvina’s absence. Maybe she went to FL coast and melted when she stepped into the ocean.

          and to follow on the theme here, I hate to say it mates but their whackos are waaay whackier than ours. I will accept that we do outnumber them – I’ve worked enough festivals. It’s true, some people just shouldn’t smoke pot. Or drink beer. Or even appear in public.

  19. kaptinemo says:

    OT. What has been said here for years has finally been demographically determined. Millennials are overtaking Boomers electorally. More are joining the ranks of the electorate every day.

    ” “The U.S. now has 88 million millennials, people born 1981 to 2000,” Zara Kessler writes. “This generation has tremendous political clout: Three of 10 voting-age Americans are millennials, and more members of the generation reach voting age each day.”

    Seeing as prohibition has been targeting Millennials literally from the moment they were born, it’s own fair that they now target prohibition and those who support it…politically. Which is why you hear the political front-runners hurriedly changing their stances on re-legalization so quickly. They have grudgingly heard the growing impatience of their new paymasters. For that is what the former targets of prohibition now are: taxpayers who will no longer pay for the gun of prohibition being held to their heads by the hands of their public servants whose salaries they now pay for.

    Prohibition’s demographic Doomsday has been confirmed, heading inbound.

    • jean valjean says:

      I have been working with high school age students recently and I can say without a doubt that they are almost all opposed to cannabis prohibition and are voicing their opinion loudly… they’ll all be voting soon, too.

  20. allan says:

    John Trudell – February 15, 1946 – December 8, 2015

    aaaaahhh!!

  21. Duncan20903 says:

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    It feels like it was only a few of days ago when I waxed philosophic about the not insignificant number of elected or appointed authorities who have zero respect for the 1st Amendment. Well here’s a friggin’ biggie: Mississippi has banned the Marijuana Policy Project because Rob Kampia was found guilty of a felony almost 30 years ago. Now, when I say 30 years I do mean 3 DECADES. It’s obvious that the people from Mississippi flunked their IQ test. Will anyone on this side of the debate who doesn’t believe that money is speech change his mind now? Because if money isn’t speech then Mississippi is probably within its rights.

    Is it safe to believe that the existence of prohibitionist spongiform encephalopathy is possible? (That would basically be mad cow disease when it’s inside the skull of a prohibitionist instead of a bovine.) Something is making these people very, very stupid and I want to know what that something is!

    • primus says:

      Genetics. Their parents wer stupid so what else can you expect?

    • kaptinemo says:

      Ever see a sebaceous cyst get ‘expressed’? Don’t YouTube it, it’s not pretty. Lotsa gross, disgusting stuff comes out.

      Prohibs are just like those cysts. Squeeze a prohib, and the pressure on their Inner Crazy causes it to get forced to the surface…where more than their shrinking numbers of supporters see it.

      It’s the desperation, again. It’s oozing out in so many very noticeable ways. And the problem for the prohibs is that the public is increasingly aware of their minority status on this issue.

      Minority status in not just numbers, but socially, and therefore politically, as well. The ‘tyranny of the majority’ that backed prohibition, when that majority was comprised of a generation of ‘Archie Bunkers’ with their authoritarian impulses ingrained into drug law, is dwindling away. Archie Bunker is dead, and is not around to back the prohibs any longer, not socially, not politically. And ultimately, not economically.

      It’s just like what the great nuclear scientist Max Planck said:

      “A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.”

      And there it is. Those who know the truth about cannabis are on the increase. This is ‘squeezing’ the prohibs, and right on cue, they erupt in suppurating nonsense like this, a pure ‘Hail Mary’ play if ever there was one. And in the end they only publicly expose their mania even further.

    • kaptinemo says:

      Please, don’t damn all Mississippians; this is not the doings of the electorate, but bureaucrats. Bureaucrats who never understand that they are not ‘infallible’ like the Pope, and cannot speak ‘ex cathedra’ on anything without the possibility of their blathering being overturned, in court or the ballot box.

      Which is probably what’s going to happen now that the prohibs have pulled such a stupidly purblind move. They’ve proudly pointed to the petard they are sitting on, inviting ignition of it. And, if there’s anything cannabists have at the ready, it’s lighters.

      This reeks of First Amendment encroachment. ACLU might be interested.

      • Windy says:

        I have told the ACLU (when they just the other day requested a donation from me after I did their survey) that when they start fighting for EVERY unalienable right (including gun rights) as strongly as they fight for abortion rights then I may give them a donation. They claim to fight for civil rights but they only fight for some civil rights, not all of them, so until they fight FOR the entire Bill of Rights and AGAINST EVERY governmental violation of individual liberty, they can suck air.

        • primus says:

          I suggest a small donation with the promise of more when they broaden the scope of their work as you describe. They are more likely to listen to a donor.

      • Hope says:

        Kap, I say let the hoisting begin!

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