And now for something completely different

Posted on March 24, 2015 by Pete

Just for fun:

9 Reasons We Should Never, Never, Never, Ever Legalize Marijuana by Michael McCutcheon.

Pretty convincing stuff.

Consider this an open thread.

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30 Responses to And now for something completely different

  2. Thinking Clearly says:
    March 24, 2015 at 11:17 pm

    I can’t think of a better way to expose the fabrications of prohibition than getting a good laugh at the truth of it all for comparison.

    A good look at prohibitionist “realities” are now as amusing to the public as an evening of watching comedy central. The old “tough on crime” veterans still leading the drug war have a great deal to worry about … and to account for.

  3. ohutumvalik says:
    March 25, 2015 at 4:03 am

    Have you guys seen this?

    I found this on Project SAM-s Facebook. Apparently The Colorado Springs Gazette is publishing a series of scathing attacks on legalization. “Series co-author Christine Tatum is a longtime journalist who is married to SAM science advisor, Dr. Christian Thurstone,” they admit.

    http://gazette.com/clearingthehaze

    Some of the articles contain good points, but they are few and far between.

    • Crut says:
      March 25, 2015 at 8:17 am

      Yes, thanks, we saw that yesterday.

      The gazette opinion board is virulently anti-cannabis, so this is not a surprise. Nobody of importance will read it so just let them spin in their own graves.

      • Will says:
        March 25, 2015 at 11:56 am

        And here’s an installment outlining the trouble 19-year-old former marijuana addict “Kaleb” went through;

        http://tinyurl.com/o9lmj7g

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        Here’s a quote from “Kaleb”;

        “It’s [marijuana industry] all so misleading, and there’s a lot of trickery going on because there are big money and politics in this and not enough people standing up to do the right thing because they’re afraid of losing something — like money, power, privilege or image,” Kaleb said. “I compare it to Big Tobacco and bogus 1950s ads pushing everyone to smoke cigarettes — you know, as an expression of personal freedom and with a mythical 9 out of 10 doctors saying it’s all right. Only this time, it’s not just a buzz from some nicotine we’re talking about. Weed is a psychoactive, mind-altering substance. It is addictive. And I don’t care what anyone says; it is being marketed to kids.”

        And;

        “The weed, not alcohol or tobacco, came first, and the more I used, the more I drank, and the more pills I eventually popped. That doesn’t happen to everyone who uses weed, but it happen to enough of us. It’s a gateway.”

        —————-

        The quotes above — from a 19-year-old? — sound quite scripted to me. “Big money”, “Big Tobacco”, “marketed to kids”, “It’s a gateway”. These words from “Kaleb” sound remarkably similar to someone named “Kevin”.

        • kaptinemo says:
          March 25, 2015 at 2:38 pm

          ‘Big Tobacco’ is definitely Kevvie’s bailiwick.

          They really do think that nobody is going to figure out the trail leads back to Warshington and ONDCP. They really think they’re that clever. Meanwhile, their plan is unraveling as you read this.

          It’s almost too painful to look, kind of like watching ‘developmentally challenged’ adults trying to plan a bank heist when they’re barely able to tie their shoes.

          Each and every one of the ‘journalists’ who wrote those stories are beneficiaries of the DrugWar. As we said, right here, the only ones singing prohibition’s praises are those who profit from it. And this latest attempt at fooling the public has flushed them out in the open, as those updates show.

          They are outing themselves just like we said they would. Sooooo predictable.

          But don’t worry; you haven’t missed the Big Event. A full-on public meltdown is in the cards, now that this gambit is failing. Some people, there and in DC, have some major ‘splainin’ to do. Keep yer popcorn dry and the coconut oil (best thing for popcorn popping) ready.

        • darkcycle says:
          March 25, 2015 at 3:47 pm

          Yep, the piece was penned by Dr. Thurstone’s wife.
          Doesn’t she know that you can’t cover the circus if you’re screwing the clowns?

        • kaptinemo says:
          March 26, 2015 at 8:59 am

          The hurricane winds are rising in speed: Columbia Journalism Revue: Gazette publisher in Colorado defends controversial marijuana series

          from the article:

          Instead, the series is a product of two of the paper’s editorial board members, Wayne Laugesen, and Pula Davis, along with a Denver-based freelancer hired by the paper. The Gazette editorial board is staunchly anti-legalization, and the freelancer, Christine Tatum, is a legalization opponent—not identified as such by the paper—whose husband, quoted in the series, is an anti-pot addiction specialist, which is disclosed in one instance but not everywhere.

          “The general public reading this will have no idea that Christine is extremely opposed to marijuana legalization and that she’s married to a doctor that has been one of the most vocal voices in this whole process warning of the potential unintended consequences of all this,” says Ricardo Baca, editor of The Denver Post’s marijuana news and culture blog The Cannabist.

          This is exactly the kind of thing that ONDCP did last decade and got caught for, making BS PSAs and passing them off as legit news, without listing the source as a Gub’mint agency.

          Read the whole CJR article, and realize this is where journalism has been heading long before 9/11. The author’s conversation with the publisher of the Gazette is particularly revealing of an attitude common to prohibitionists when caught out.

          For example, the publisher claims overwhelming support for the articles from States all around the country. But he doesn’t say from whom…like the astroturf groups Kevvie’s been busily setting up, perhaps? All those prohibs who face a shattered rice bowl? Oily, slimy, smarmy…any other adjectives anyone care to use to use to describe that exchange?

          If you go to SourceWatch and look up Project SAM, you find something interesting: one of the writers of the execrable garbage the Gazette published is one Christine Tatum…that is, when she remembers to use her maiden name. Otherwise, as noted in the SourceWatch Who’s Who, she is listed as Thurstone.

          Given what happened, and her evident desire to conceal a screamingly obvious conflict of interest IRT the articles, this should illustrate just how fundamentally dishonest the prohibs are at a molecular level.

    • Tim says:
      March 25, 2015 at 9:30 pm

      We’re going through the same thing in GamerGate, except ‘misogynist’ is the new ‘legalizer.’

      “Indie Games” developers literally in bed with Kotaku. Payola. Rigged contests on their rubber chicken circuit. Some people even claim that a meth or coke dealer is blackmailing people.

      But at the core, it’s about ethics. While grumbling about it, all main gaming websites now feature disclaimers like the one in the advertorial above.

      I really thought Cliff Kincaid or Calvina Fay were whacked, but then again I never heard of Alex Lifschitz or Brianna Wu before last year.

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  5. Dante says:
    March 25, 2015 at 6:40 am

    I bet Sabet is reading this now and still not getting the sarcasm. Lord, what fools these prohibitches be.

  6. claygooding says:
    March 25, 2015 at 6:53 am

    Unfortunately they did not find a way to protect the children from the may be linked and anecdotal fear mongering by NIDA and it’s spin off agencies around the world.
    If the government can’t protect the children while spending $5 trillion and locking up over 23 million Americans what could?

    I suppose hemp may save our economy,,it can surely help our ecology and it can help soothe the savage beast in everyone’s heart except the war profiteers,control freaks and government teat sucking parasites.
    The biggest problem hemp legalization fails too fix now is it can’t let parents off the hook from parenting.

    • Duncan20903 says:
      March 25, 2015 at 9:33 pm

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      I have no clue why anyone would think that an industrial hemp industry would benefit the economy. I’ve explained in detail before why re-legalization of industrial hemp would slash GDP, cause entire factories to shut down practically overnight, cause an incredibly large number of jobs to vanish and never bee seen again, etc, etc, etc. It would be a financial catastrophe for a significant slice of the economy.

      I know people don’t like it but it’s the truth. Let’s just talk about the factory that makes the insecticides needed for industrial cotton production. If hemp replaces cotton the need for that factory vanishes. There’s no comparable need for such a specialized insecticide for hemp production. The factory becomes worthless overnight and the jobs just plain vanish.

      The reason that re-legalizing cannabis for enjoyment is good for the economy is because it plugs a leak where the black market is sucking money out of the economy. It’s also very arguable that re-legalization doesn’t create new jobs, but it does create new taxpayers.

      Re-legalization of industrial hemp would undoubtedly be good for the personal economies of individuals but there are two sides to every balance sheet. Re-legalization of industrial hemp would be a significant drain on the Country’s GDP.

  7. kaptinemo says:
    March 25, 2015 at 8:00 am

    (Laughing too hard, bent over, holding hurting gut, tears falling)

    (Getting breath back) Oh, jeez, thanks, Pete! You’ve made my day! Couldn’t have asked for a better start!

    Seriously, though, this is what needs to happen. Lampoon these self-important prohib goofs. Not just because they make it so easy to. Not just because they make it so inviting, with their constant ‘leading with the chin’, courtesy of their pretentiousness and hypocrisy.

    No, because honest, deserved mocking laughter deflates an overly self-important ego better than anything else. And you have to have that kind of an ego to think you know better than anyone else how to run their lives. A prohib’s ego.

    You know, it had to have partly been fear of public humiliation that caused them to avoid debating us all these years. Now that we don’t have to debate them – being the social and political majority, we can manifest our will legislatively – they will now learn what ‘marginalization’ means.

    Maybe they can consult with these guys as to how to adapt to their future status in society. I’m sure they could provide plenty of advice as to what it feels like.

  8. Vincent Nunes says:
    March 25, 2015 at 9:12 am

    This is EXACTLY the way the debate needs to be framed.

    Slap the bastards in the face with this own inanity.

    That URL is going on my G+ page!

    Thanks, Pete!

  9. Tony Aroma says:
    March 25, 2015 at 7:18 pm

    OT: Not sure I understand:

    Alaska Senate panel advances bill regarding pot crimes

    Specifically, what I don’t understand is this:

    SB 30 … prohibits delivery or transportation of marijuana for sale or barter.

    What kind of commercial market can you have if you aren’t allowed to transport the product? What does that mean?

    • claygooding says:
      March 25, 2015 at 7:21 pm

      SNAFU

    • Nunavut Tripper says:
      March 25, 2015 at 8:11 pm

      Doesn’t make sense unless it’s a typical move to throw a monkey wrench into the system to make legalisation difficult and awkward.

      Plus keeping the arrest and incarceration numbers up to appease the LEO’s and prison industry.

      I can hear them wailing the “legalization was a big mistake” mantra in about a year.

      It must take balls to be a politician and spin whoppers like that at a press conference.

    • Thinking Clearly says:
      March 25, 2015 at 10:15 pm

      Tar and feathers? Recall?
      … and pay more attention in that next election.

    • Duncan20903 says:
      March 25, 2015 at 11:50 pm

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      Alaskan authorities and law makers haven’t even been pretending that they intend to let the law approved by the State’s voters stand. The plan is to stonewall for two years and then repeal. One of the State’s Legislators even introduced a bill to repeal on the very first day its legal for the Legislature to do so. The proposal went nowhere because the current Legislature isn’t allowed to tie the hands of a future Legislature. Why does it bother me so deeply when lawmakers propose, or even worse enact blatantly illegal laws which they do know or at least should know that they are in fact illegal?

      Hey, I was shocked that the Alaska 2014 ballot initiative passed. That’s in an election with no voting for POTUS and while electing two Republicans for U.S. Senator and U.S. Representative and a Governor who ran as an independent because he didn’t get the Republican nomination. The party preferred the incumbent. All on a day when the U.S. voters were kicking Democrats to the curb nationwide.

      You know, I’ve got to add this one to my list of stuff that’s different now from the 1970s. The just under 45% of registered voters who actually showed up to vote approve the regulated re-legalization of cannabis while electing all of those Republicans. I didn’t even mention the Republicans’ near sweep in the State Legislature. Here, see for yourself: linky

  10. Nunavut Tripper says:
    March 25, 2015 at 8:48 pm

    Found an interesting and disturbing article about drug cop patches.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/03/20/the-oddly-beautiful-and-sometimes-disturbing-artistic-talent-of-the-nations-drug-cops/

    Be sure to scroll down to the asset forfeiture patch.

  11. Duncan20903 says:
    March 26, 2015 at 1:11 am

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    This really sucks. A couple of knuckleheads in Minnesota who were making BHO got themselves a murder beef because they caused an explosion killing an 85 year old little old lady. Of course the enemies of essential liberty didn’t notice that it was the butane which exploded. I think that’s beyond their limited kens.

    Marijuana Wax Fire Leads To Grandmother’s Death, 2 Men Charged With Murder

    Gosh I really do wish that people would stop doing that. I would like to know why people don’t use propane or natural gas? I think it’s because the manufacturers adulterate both with whatever it is that gives it that tell tale smell while there is butane available that hasn’t been monkeyed with.

  12. Traumatic Brain Injury Survivor says:
    March 27, 2015 at 2:59 pm

    So it must be a placebo or my imagination when cannabis cures a violent migraine after one hit or stops nausea when I can’t even keep a glass of water down.
    Yea…I just wanted to get high and there is medicinal effect from cannabis. Suure. Blue blood busybody do gooder poseur pukes know best how to live my life for me. What was I thinking wanting to be free of pain and violent regurgitation.

  13. Windy says:
    March 28, 2015 at 12:08 pm

    http://www.cannabisculture.com/content/2015/03/27/Rosin-Tech-Death-BHO

    CANNABIS CULTURE – Rosin Tech is the mind-blowingly easy way to extract beautiful shatter-like hash resin – known as rosin – from your cannabis flowers.
    In the following videos, hash master Johnny B shows us the method, popularized by Soilgrown Sal and featured on Hash Church, using a handheld hair straightener an ounce of high grade Medi Kush.
    The method uses no butane, alcohols, or other solvents – just heat from the iron and a piece of parchment paper to collect the rosin.

    From what I’ve read about extracting, seems to me this heat is way too high and will destroy some of he cannabinoids and terpenes, what do you think?

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