Vienna, 15 November – The President of the International Narcotics Control Board (INCB), Raymond Yans, has voiced grave concern about the outcome of recent referenda in the United States of America that would allow the non-medical use of cannabis by adults in the states of Colorado and Washington, and in some cities in the states of Michigan and Vermont. Mr. Yans stated that “these developments are in violation of the international drug control treaties, and pose a great threat to public health and the well-being of society far beyond those states”.
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I’ve been waiting for the “treaty” argument to rear its head. For my two cents, I don’t believe those who use cannabis for any reason should worry or care about international treaties.
That is, UNTIL and WHEN the U.S. upholds international treaties against TORTURE. The Convention Against Torture and the Geneva Convention requires that EVERY signatory prosecute acts of torture. If the U.S. was doing its job, we’d have a bunch of politicians in jail for war crimes.
I say as long as the U.S. believes empire gives it the right to stomp all over treaties on torture they can fuck off trying to hold us to treaty obligations on cannabis.
The treaties against torture are about protecting the rights of individuals and limiting the powers of government. The drug war treaties are about limiting the rights of individuals and expanding the powers of government. Guess which one the world’s political elite are more interested in upholding.
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Didja know that the Chinese have the death penalty for civil servants and politicians if they’re convicted of graft or corruption? They also manage to find a couple of bus loads of people to execute every year. Corrupt public officials is the second only to drug charges as the reason given for total executions in China.
I got a didja know too:
Meanwhile the Chinese government owns the biggest tobacco comapny in the world and this product has killed millions more.
Can you smell the fear of the Elitists, knowing they are loosing yet another grip on the lives of common people..We are enslaved through Drug Laws to Employers and Government. They are able to control our lives outside of the workplace through Drug Laws. Its too early to tell, I can not see the Elite giving up easily, however possibly the chains are easing on us, and maybe one day we will be a free people again…I hope to live long enough to see my Freedom restored to the days of my childhood. for the last 30 years I know I have been living in a Police State.. To Protect and Serve has been replaced with to Enforce and Generate Revenue!
They don’t honestly expect this to work do they? Few people know about the international treaty and even fewer care that it exists. Who is that going to stop? Not me.
Drug warriors around the world are scared of this,,their budgets are riding on the world never having any common sense.
And every one of them is making out their xmas list to give to Kerli,,all demanding bigger budgets to offset the disastrous effect that sanity has on their efforts to keep the citizenry convinced the world is still behind their wasting billions of dollars while not achieving anything except making criminals and support corporations rich.
Add that to the expense of “buying” any countries showing signs of sanity back into the fold and I estimate the ONDCP budget will double next year.
O/T
Legalize Drugs Debate
For:
Nick Gillespie Editor in Chief of Reason.tv and Reason.com
Paul Butler Professor of Law, Georgetown University Law Center
Against:
Asa Hutchinson Former Administrator, Drug Enforcement Administration
Theodore Dalrymple Dietrich Weismann Fellow, Manhattan Institute
Results:
PRE-DEBATE POLL RESULTS
45% FOR | 23% AGAINST | 32% UNDECIDED
POST-DEBATE POLL RESULTS
58% FOR | 30% AGAINST | 12% UNDECIDED
This is encouraging as the undecided broke in favor of legalization 2-to-1.
Gillespie is AWESOME,,ASA is a tool,,no wonder he owns a business that hooks up industries to Homeland Security contracts,,could not stop watching it.
theodore dalrymple… i’ve never heard so many straw man arguments
Domestic Terrorism
St. Paul to pay record-tying $400K in police violence case
Notice how the taxpayers are on the hook for 400K but nothing happens to the cops?
Very simple solution; withdraw from the U.N. Single Convention.
I think Pete has the right approach as we move forward:
Drug Warriors = Terrorists.
Keep pounding that point home – that those who swore an oath on the Bible to “save the children” are, in fact, the very people who are endangering and harming the children. And the grandmothers. And the Labrador Retrievers.
Drug Warriors are the enemy of all that is American. Heck, they are the enemy of all people. Even their motto says so:
Protect & Serve (Themselves!)
I don’t think Mexico is worried about the International Narcotics Control Board either:
Mexico lawmaker introduces bill to legalize marijuana
http://reut.rs/XK0aMv
I think they are just adding pressure on DC to shut down our efforts in reducing their national income.
Is this true about Cash Hyde ?
If so the police have hit an all time low.
http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2012/11/rip_cash_hyde_police_force_way_into_grieving_famil.php#more
It certainly wouldn’t be beyond them.
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Sons of bitches. The first thought to jump into my mind is they’re going to use the autopsy results to prosecute his parents for child abuse. I really hope that I’m wrong about this. I am speculating, but it’s certainly not baseless speculation.
For what it’s worth…
http://www.kaj18.com/news/authorities-respond-to-criticism-in-wake-of-cash-hyde-s-death/
Sounds plausible to me.
International law is voluntary. It’s based on the fact that nations retain their sovereignty and enter into mutual agreements, evinced by international law, that are considered beneficial to all. The laws cover diverse international agreements, such as those involving the use of the high seas, outer space, Antarctica, continental shelves and fishing rights, the Geneva Conventions, overfly zones, and in this case, the Single Treaty and illicit drugs.
There’s really no way of directly enforcing international law, since there exists no separate international government having its own military or international police force. Witness this country’s use of torture, while the instigators remain free. If a nation digresses from international law, other countries can band together to harass the malefactor, and then there’s the International Criminal Court (ICC) which just celebrated its tenth birthday, but that’s about it. The United States doesn’t even recognize the ICC.
Different means of regulating marijuana use exist throughout the world. Some are formalized into law, some aren’t. In short, under international law it is highly unlikely that withdrawing, or even violating the Single Treaty, will result in Russia or Sweden invading Colorado and Washington. And if they do, they’re in for a surprise.
Another aspect that should give the prohibs of all nations some pause: the primary instigator of the Treaty was a rabid racist who didn’t like anyone whose skin pigmentation was three shades darker than WonderBread.
Anslinger was almost certainly a subscriber to eugenics, given his statements about those whom he considered to be ‘degenerate races’. Said ‘degenerate races’ are now beholden to a Treaty that specifically targets them in the same way our drug laws specifically targeted our minorities…by attacking ‘their drugs’ the culture, itself, is attacked.
By prohibiting substances that many of the targeted cultures have safely used for millennia, you have another example of a wholly manufactured and completely unnecessary ‘clash of civilizations’; in essence, picking fights with peoples who could have been our friends.
In any event, foreign non-White supporters of Anslinger’s Folly are doing little more than licking the spittle of a long-dead racist cracker off of their faces. As is every non-White American drug law enforcer.
> International law is voluntary. …
Maybe so, but a treaty obligation is the highest law of the land, or so I’m led to believe.
That being the case, which drug policy reform organization is it that agitates most effectively for abrogation of the Single Convention?
LEAP.
YOU, Mr. Raymond Yans, POSE A DIRECT THREAT TO THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF HUMANS, YOU LOUSY LYING SACK OF STINKING CRAPPOLLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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International bureaucrats? No problem. Second amendment remedies.
Nah. You don’t want people feeling sorry for them, which is what happens with 2nd Amendment solutions.
No martyrs on their side. The martyrs are us.
Drug Warriors = Terrorists.
Done
After the U.N. oil for food scandal, I see no reason to take them seriously.
The U.N. is not taking my Red Ryder BB gun away, either.
http://www.cfr.org/un/iraq-oil-food-scandal/p7631