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OT – I lost a friend and we lost a true warrior. CSM Basil Plumley passed away at 0400 yesterday from cancer. If the name sorta rings a bell, Plumley was portrayed by Sam Elliott in the film “We Were Soldiers.” “Gentlemen, prepare to defend yourselves” were his exact words.
Now, the SgtMjr and his mount are headed to Fiddler’s Green, there to rest up for his final ride, and grab some grub and a cup of joe.
Garry Owen and RIP, SgtMjr. You deserve it.
If these ads are what it takes to convince the fearful to vote for cannabis legalization, then they’re ok.
I’ve been a cannabis activist since I discovered its value to me to improve my life – about seven years. I turned in over 8,000 signatures towards I-1068 in 2010, which didn’t make the ballot. Not for lack of huge volunteer efforts, but rather for lack of organization at the top.
I really dislike the compromises that the proponents of I-502 made – the per se DUI law (which panders to ignorance and authoritarianism), the lack of provision for personal grows, and the tax regime which guarantees that the black market will continue.
However, I’m going to hold my nose and vote yes, because in our political system, where no one is too ignorant or stupid to be pandered to, and rule is by the lowest common denominator, this is what it took to get it on the ballot. Alison Holcomb is an operator in an imperfect world – and she got it done. How many initiatives have the usual suspects gotten on the ballot?
I think holding your nose and voting yes is an appropriate description of your vote but I also believe getting the grow your own and the dui law recalled will be easy after 2>3 years of marijuana being legalized,because there will be even more people convinced of the needless dui law and the market control grow your own will give the consumer,,and the tax control over legislators trying to use marijuana taxes to build mansions at the lake.
Good to hear it Diva. I’m kinda in the same boat, but we’re never going to get all the things we want, and we have to START somewhere. Look at it the way I do, if legalization for adults is what the Feds are fighting, the medical folks like us will suddenly be the LEAST of their worries. That’s the silver lining we can hope for. And I-502 doesn’t touch medical gardens, thankfully.
It would make me very cautious of any overgrow for a bit,,,the thrashing beast of prohibition may cause some serious problems for any medical growers that overproduce….
There’s medical growers who overproduce??! 😉
and if the feds and LE keep stealing it, can there ever be “over production”… hmmm? Isn’t “over production” what ends up in the compost bin?
I think I’d rather have prohibition than a b.s. dui law that could get me busted stone cold sober. I grew up in WA but if they pass that law I won’t be eager to visit. I’m rooting for CO ‘cos it’s a day’s drive away. Sadly, legalization is not on the ballot in my state so I don’t get to vote on it either way.
Ending prohibition is more important than any bullshit laws written in an effort to end it.
At some point in time a lawyer is going to ask for scientific proof that 5 nanos of active metabolites actually designates impairment.
Since every simulator testing done on people when they are high has shown little to no impairment,,proof of impaired driving will require it be backed up by some physical evidence.
Dude, don’t forget, it’s illegal to drive with ANY metabolite in your system now. All they need to do is decide to test you.
“I think I’d rather have prohibition than a b.s. dui law”
tell that to the victims of the WOD, there’s a link in the left column.
prohibition – not now and certainly never again. Kill the beast. Kill it fucking dead. Eviscerate it, incinerate it and then burn the ashes again.
Right now is always the best time, MLK made that point often.
Let MPP and ASA fight for the patients now, it’s all hands on deck… we’ve the beast in our sights. I hear Malcolm has a plan. (as soon as he gets back from a roadtrip w/ his 13 concubines) (pirates get vacations nowadays too ya know)
It has my vote.
“I hear Malcolm has a plan. (as soon as he gets back from a roadtrip w/ his 13 concubines) (pirates get vacations nowadays too ya know)”
There are sixteen pawns in a chess set and each player in a chess game starts with sixteen pieces.
Sixteen is the amount of waking hours in a day in an “8 hours of sleep” schedule.
There are sixteen ounces in a pound.
Caterpillars have 16 legs.
Pirates always have 16 concubines. 🙂
Arrr, got any room on that ship there matey? 😉
Good piece over at the NYT:
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/lawmen-against-the-law/?hp
I noticed Mr Egan labeled the opposition to 502 as being greed based but the Sheriffs and police chiefs against 502 are guilty of the same greed,,they don’t want the marijuana arrests bounty money to dry up.
…and he repeats the mistake that cannabis is in schedule I with heroin and *cocaine*…just goes to show…
The retro act “The Former Drug Czars” plan to sing and dance their ways into your hearts on Monday: http://tinyurl.com/9h7v4ju
FDR had his ‘Nine Old Men’ to bedevil him (properly, as it turned out) but ours are not anywhere near as concerned for the Constitution (that they wiped themselves with daily with support for unConstitutional laws).
Nine (Stale!) Old Farts gassing up the place when they open their pie-holes. Don’t have enough sense to toddle off and enjoy their ill-gotten gains, but have to call further attention to themselves.
Fine. The more they say, the more they doom themselves to irrelevancy. Rant on, you (unprintable epithets)s. Our day has come.
For, as the old saying goes, “Justice is what we deserve!…but mercy is in not getting it.” What they deserve after using the sword of justice so foully against so many harmless people is just what they helped mete out…and so handsomely benefited from doing so.
Yeah, I would totally support any “thumbs down” my above comment may garner. They might want to call their musical act “The Irrelevants”.
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Article in Alternet on the law suit by Americans for Safe Access. One of their arguments is that cannabis would be more appropriately classified as schedule three. Schedule three however includes Vicodin and acetaminophen with codeine, and even schedule four includes valium and xanax. Some of these drugs are opiate based and others, like valium, are also potentially physically addictive in a way which has no comparison with any “addictive” qualities of cannabis. I don’t understand why Dr grant is making the comparison of cannabis with vicodin….seems idiotic to me.
http://www.alternet.org/drugs/can-lawsuit-shatter-federal-prohibition-medical-pot
“This current attempt began in 2002, when a coalition of medical-marijuana and legalization advocates filed a petition with the DEA. It contended that cannabis “has an accepted medical use in the United States, is safe for use under medical supervision, has an abuse potential lower than Schedule I or II drugs, and has a dependence liability that is also lower than Schedule I or II drugs.†It requested that marijuana be moved to Schedule III (Vicodin, acetaminophen with codeine), Schedule IV (Valium, Xanax), or Schedule V (codeine cough syrup).
“Based on evidence currently available, the Schedule I classification is not tenable,†Dr. Grant wrote in the 2012 issue of the Open Neurology Journal . “It is not accurate that cannabis has no medical value, or that information on safety is lacking. It is true cannabis has some abuse potential, but its profile more closely resembles drugs in Schedule III.â€
It matters not what schedule they move it too Peter,any other schedule would remove control of clinical testing of marijuana from the agencies required by law to deny them.
yes i see that but once again in the wonderland world of prohibition we are having to play the game on their terms. (some would argue that mmj is primarily a tactic to achieve regulated cannabis use by adults). nevertheless comparing cannabis to vicodin is plain silly. ask anyone whi uses vicodin regularly what its like to run out and you will get a very different story compared with running out of cannabis. one is very bad news and the other is an inconvenience.
Cannabis should be listed as an herb not a drug. BTW, one can die from the withdrawal from Valium, the same cannot be said of cannabis.
PS the videos, both of them, have been “removed by user”.