Rafael Lemaitre and Gil Kerlikowske
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As I suspected, Lemaitre’s just not up to doing the same job as Sabet. The frank, in-your-face degree of mendacity in that ‘tweet’ lacks the usual, oily Sabet subtlety.
I want my money back…
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No one can match a natural born prohibitionist’s talent for generating hysterical rhetoric.
Prohibitionists are bought, not born.
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http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/14/marijuana-growing-in-popularity-among-teenagers/
Marijuana Use Growing Among Teenagers
By ANAHAD O’CONNOR
December 14, 2011
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http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/14/1-in-9-high-school-seniors-using-synthetic-marijuana/
1 in 9 high school seniors using synthetic marijuana
December 14th, 2011
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It really is amazing that they’ve been selling synthetic cannabis since at least 2004 but we never noticed any of the horrid effects until after the Know Nothing prohibitionists discovered its existence in early 2010. Similar to the way that no one knew that cannabis was addictive until the addictionologists (read: phrenologists) realized they could get paid if it was addictive.
You know that Kerli would love to close down all legalization sites,,this instant answering is killing his propaganda campaigns.
No link Pete?
Besides being pathetic and cowardly, add arrogance.
Kerlikowske and Lemaitre appear to believe the average 15-year-old can’t see beyond prohibition’s circus of lies. It actually takes someone dumber than a 15-year-old to believe this, and to think they could succeed with the kinds of mindless deceits and nonsense we see flung about by prohibitionists like Kerlikowske and Lemaitre.
The typical prohibitionist’s self-aggrandizing claim to powers of illusion wouldn’t get them a booking at a kindergarten magic show. The kids would throw their lunch at the incompetent prohibition clowns and exit the room.
http://twitter.com/RafaelONDCP
*ahhem*
That really should read:
“Erode B.S Deception(s) of harm…”
I mean seriously, we’re absolutely killing – all of their Really Expensive Lies!
How dare we even _think_ of doing such things?
Here’s my comment on the NYTimes piece on the MTF press release:
I agree with Jake, it looks like they’re substituting cannabis for more harmful drugs. Except for the legal problems if they get into trouble, this must be seen as a positive.
Overall, I want to say I’m dismayed by the extent to which this blog entry reproduces the ONDCP and MTF take on this study.
In particular, neither the blog nor the press release it’s based on pay any attention to the category “narcotics other than heroin,” which surely includes Oxycontin, Norco, and other synthetic opiates.
Have a look at the charts accompanying the press release, and you’ll see a rather large jump in the perceived availability of those drugs across the grade levels covered by the study. Unlike cannabis, these are drugs that can easily end a person’s life.
http://monitoringthefuture.org/data/11data/fig11_11.pdf
Here’s the NYT article / blog:
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/14/marijuana-growing-in-popularity-among-teenagers/
QUOTE:
“… said Mr. Kerlikowske. “High school students probably think it’s not dangerous. But we know from the calls to hot lines, emergency departments and poison control centers that this stuff really is dangerous… ” *talking about MJ*
Actually, They’re killing their own credibility here – every-time they spout off using this “sending the wrong message” crap = teenagers can read between the lines/lies – just as well as anyone else!
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I believe that he’s referring to so called synthetic cannabis, not the real thing. It’s not hard for me to believe that the government’s lackey scientists have taken a non-toxic, naturally occurring substance that’s never killed a single human being and produced a Frankenstein’s monster that is a killer. Heck, it appears that even synthetic dronabinol (AKA Marinol®) has a body count.
Did everyone know that the word dronabinol is a squished squished together bastardization of the word tetrahydrocannabinol?
[my spell checker didn’t recognize tetrahydrocannabinol. It suggests magnetohydrodynamical instead. I have no clue what magnetohydrodynamical means, but it sure sounds cool.]
I wonder if it comes with a kick starter?
Magnetohydrodynamical? I’d stay away from that stuff if I were you. It’s not as harmless as its proponents would like you to believe. And the stuff that’s on the streets these days is not your father’s MHD. It’s a bajillion times more potent. Plus it almost always leads to harder to spell words and even more obscure acronyms.
I should Clarify that a bit I was referring to the standard Cut & paste reply Kerli’s used for some time now, quoted farther up the page in that NYT article:
This is obvious nonsense & teenagers are easily cynical enough to see this as a lie.
Now in regard to the “synthetic THC analogues” = IDK if they’re harmful or not? I wouldn’t think so…
Although if they don’t have a synthetic CBD analogue in them as well (And I wouldn’t bet many don’t) = Then that could indeed cause some serious paranoia/aka ‘bad trip’ highs. And that could easily account for a large “uptick” in emergency room visits.
Aka – the infamously stupid the cop that called 911 on himself and his wife thinking they were dying after getting way too high (or at least higher than they knew how to deal with) on pot brownies.
Still, I wouldn’t doubt that some of the stuff being peddled as “K2 or Spice” or whatever kind of ‘fake weed’ is really some truly/potentially harmful crap sprayed on incense & sold as ‘psuedo-weed’, it may get people some sort of “high”… but how would you know what you’re smoking?
That is a legitimate concern, as is young people smoking perfectly safe cannabis & then thinking “if they (adults like Kerli) are lying about weed – then this other drug is probably not really dangerous… they just don’t want us to use stuff like this.”
It’s a serious matter of credibility – lie to young people about cannabis & they won’t take you seriously when you try to tell them – “NO REALLY, (Insert Drug Here = Heroin, Crack, PCP, Various/Misc. prescription pills they might not even be able to identify) ARE Dangerous!”
And I share the concerns voiced in response to Philips’s story on this US House Votes to Ban New Synthetic Drugs about this potentially ‘stopping researchers studying the human endogenous cannabinoid system.’
When can we budget-cut the ONDCP?
That’s right, Drug Warriors, we are taking aim at you.
The full fury of the American people, when focused on a single government agency, gets pretty hot. Those who have been found to be less than forthright may end up in a bind.
Collars getting a little tight, isn’t it, Gil?
Budget hearings are just around the corner,,and the recent request from the DOJ oversight committee has me itching for it to happen.
One of the oversight members wanted to know how much federal grant money was being paid for simple possession arrests and informed the DOJ that paying bonus money for marijuana,while a majority of Americans support legalization for medical uses,was not a good policy.
If the DOJ removes possession arrests for marijuana from the police bounty money,,it will remove the incentive for LEO to support marijuana prohibition.
Yeah, I never heard if Rep. Kucinich & Rep. Issa got meaningful follow-ups to their request for actual answers (with numbers & data = you know all that fancy stuff) that Kerlikowski didn’t have prepared when he spoke at the hearing covered here:
Excitement in the House
Even though they’d given him their questions before hand…, they asked for a full written reply iirc –
Googling it just now (I had previously given up search for honest answers that Gil – quite likely isn’t allowed to provide and found a couple pdfs.
One of what looks like the notes of the hearing & another titled as Gil’s written testimony = though at-a-glance it appears mighty short & very ‘non-answery’.
Pete, did you (by chance) ever hear anything about the requested/promised written follow-up?
The Budget Oversight Committee might end up as the ultimate saving grace here, if they de-fund the ONDCP’s Re-authorization Act – that could be a serious bonus on our behalf.
Given Gil’s office is officially permitted to lie to the public, why should Congress believe anything ONDCP says, either? After all, it was Congress that gave ONDCP that imprimatur. How can it expect the truth when Congress said it was okay to lie to the public?
Alice would feel right at home…
Ending the Global Drug War: Voices from the Front Lines
http://reason.com/blog/2011/12/13/ending-the-global-drug-war-voices-from-t
Medical Marijuana Crackdown Coming In Colorado
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2011/12/14/crackdown-on-colorados-medical-pot-business-on-the-horizon/#.TujQ-5ROj4Q.facebook
DENVER (CBS4) – Federal authorities are planning to crack down on the medical marijuana business in Colorado on a large scale for the first time.
Warning letters will be going out to dispensaries and grow facilities near schools, CBS4 investigator Rick Sallinger has learned. So far it’s not clear how soon that will happen.
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Well evidently that self congratulatory circle jerk about how the 783 tons of regulations that the legislature put on the dispensaries made the Feds not worried about Colorado was a waste of time.
Why the heck would anyone in their right mind agree to have every minute of the ongoing Federal felony be video recorded and stored on a government computer?
The Feds have been ripping the Maine medical cannabis community a new one but it’s getting hardly any notice. The State where 99 plants is a misdemeanor has growers lined up out the door at the Federal Courthouse waiting for their turn to get bent over.
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http://www.tampabay.com/multimedia/archive/00202/GaryJohnson_202796c.jpg
“Oh jeezus, do I need a friggin’ bong hit!”
http://reason.com/assets/mc/mriggs/2011_12/GaryJohn.jpg
“What the heck do you mean there’s a dress code? Anyway, my necktie is at the dry cleaner’s today.”
It’s interesting that some people’s “character, honor and word” have a price. Droopy Dawg Kerli proves that point sooo well. He proves that souls also have a price.
I believe he knows his days are numbered. He knows cuts MUST come and he’s being sized up. Just as I won’t buy anything by Motorola (Karen Tandy ring a bell?), I hope the American Public follows suit with whatever he plans on doing afterwards.
Is there any doubt that we’re winning this engagement? I don’t think so! The ripping of clothes and knashing of teeth has started folks and it all seems to be appearing on “their” side of the playing field, doesn’t it?!!!
The tide we’ve faced for so long is truly turning and it’s good to be counted amongst the finest warriors in the land, The Freedom Brigade! However, a trapped animal is at it’s most dangerous point now. It will emit fire and fury before the “last one standing” ain’t!
H&I fire missions are now concluded. Register your fire and begin sustained HE shelling. They’re in the corner so FIRE FOR EFFECT! Melt the tubes if you have to.
Onward,,thru the fog!!!
I used to drive a VW van… bought when I came home from my tour in Thailand in ’74. Had it when I was living in Del Rio, Tx… came out to go to work one morning and there was a bullet hole, right in the middle of the driver’s door window, head high.
That van had my One Oat Willie “Onward thru the fog” bumper sticker on the back bumper. Don’t know what that redneck’s problem was. Prolly didn’t like GI smot pokers…
More arty comin’ EZ, stay tuned…. fast movers are in your neighborhood.
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/12/14/4121975/federal-judge-tells-arizona-attorney.html
In other words, their Atty. has to fish or cut bait.
In other news, Obama told People Magazine that Boardwalk Empire is one of his “must-see” shows:
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20553487,00.html
I wonder if he draws any parallels between alcohol prohibition and modern prohibition?
Fast movers are great, but with limited time on-station. Now, “Puff,” or as we know him today as Pete, sits all night, laying thread.
From the poll numbers we’re seeing, the “legs,” or voters, seem to have accepted “deployment.” Things are really shaping up quickly. My next Company reunion will be in October so I’ll travel through several airports, instead of a direct route. Yeah, it’ll cost more but 1 month before elections? I see “opportunity” instead of costs. LOL
They know very well that there are no “pro-drug” candidates….Just a couple of pro-reform candidates they’d desperately like to see gone.
Actually, I don’t think they’re referring to candidates, but rather talking about legalization and medical marijuana referenda, etc.
not only are the czars required to lie about cannabis , they also have to whine about people bringing up the truth all the time. their brain washing machine is at a disadvantage because the truth is against it. they know they are going to lose the war, and it’s the citizens voting on their paychecks that has them worried.
They kiss ass with the greatest of ease on every other issue, why they heck do they have such a problem puckering up for this one?
Still, I can’t for the life of me think of a “pro-drug” campaign.
Only Slight OT: The NY Times is inviting readers to knock the cover off some softball prohib propaganda in an “invitation to dialogue” on medical marijuana.
Have at it:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/14/opinion/invitation-to-a-dialogue-medical-marijuana.html
Holy shit. Who’s up to this one?
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Is that the same David Evans that makes me stop and ponder (just for a moment) the thought that 1st degree murder might not always be a bad thing?
Got a link?
That would be in Matthew’s post, 3 above yours.
Diesel again?
So when will your friends arrest the birds Kerli?
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The birds managed to get an exemption in 1937. Who cares if the doctors want it but god forbid the song birds should refuse to sing.
🙂