Video: Drug Czar says LEAP “Is Wrong”
An 8 minute interview with Gil Kerlikowske. Lots of lies and deception, and all the stuff we have come to expect from the drug czar.
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I lost count of the lies at 3:48….
It’s much easier to count the number of times they tell the truth. You can tell when that’s happening because their lips aren’t moving.
There are three points in the prescription process where a patient can receive information about the drug they’re being prescribed:
1. When the physician explains what the side-effects/risks are
2. When they fill their script and the pharmacist explains safe use instructions/side-effects etc
3. On the product information sheet that comes with the box e.g. http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2007/005378s026lbl.pdf
What you do with the drug after that, as an adult, is entirely your responsibility.
Ignore for a minute that most overdoses in the US occur as a result of taking non-prescription drugs (like paracetamol). Only the bat-shit insane would suggest making this common over-the-counter drug prescription only because lots of people appear unable to follow basic usage instructions.
It also appears that the prohibs are falling back to two points:
1. That legalising cannabis would ‘add another drug to the mix’ (it won’t because it’s already here)
2. Drugged driving (though no concern is raised over over the dozens of impairment inducing drugs ‘added to the mix’ every year by pharmaceutical giants).
Three points actually:
3. That cannabis use will increase – despite the fact that taxes are a known deterrent – see 40% reduction in tobacco use in California after tax hike:
“Proposition 99 (the proposition to tax and regulate cigarettes), which passed in 1988, has led to a 40% reduction in adult cigarette use” http://www.cdph.ca.gov/programs/tobacco/Documents/CTCPAdultSmoking_10.pdf
He said the drug war ended 2 years ago. Well we the people have a very large pile of rotting corpses that says otherwise.
It’s painful to watch mainly because the reporter never challenges him. Kevin Sabet has really worked poor Gil over and he lies like the rest of them. Oh, and the 2011 National Drug Control Strategy is still not out.
Here’s the UNCUT: Complete Kerlikowske Interview from KIRO Seattle.
BULLSHIT ! Hey Gil, have you noticed the lines on your face getting deeper? Thats what strees has done ,stress that you have realized you life is a lie.
Heres some facts. You havent ended the drug war, you stopped calling it a drug war.
The health and social costs of cannabis or any other drug is already here, legalization wont be adding anything.
You say your not trying to arrest your way out of this war, yet, your still arresting just as many (if not more) as you always have.
Legalization will, in large part, end the DEA’s roll on the border there by reducing costs.
These are w few of the lies I chose to address. I will just say the rest of your lies are just as easy to to correct and will not waste my time.
Education does not always mean intellegence Gil,I have a feeling your very educated…get a clue…your supporting a lie.
It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.
Thomas Jefferson (1743 – 1826), Notes on Virginia
We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.
Thomas Jefferson (1743 – 1826), letter to Samuel Kercheval, July 12, 1816
Democracy is 51% of the people taking away the rights of the other 49%.
Thomas Jefferson (1743 – 1826)
Gil looks like an alcoholic. Notice not only the increasing lines on his face but those rosey red cheels and nose.
Gil, if you would just kick back and burn one, you health could be saved.
He ended the drug year two years ago? Well I cured cancer and world hunger two years ago, but I don’t have any proof of it. Empty words from a man who has nothing to offer.
When ever I hear gil insist that the drug war is over I can’t help but think of achmadinejad insisting that there are no gays in iran.
Or Khadafi: “…there are no protests, just youth, celebrating!”
Ended the drug war? Even the press, usually the lapdogs of the government haven’t picked up that rhetorical line of crap.
What if you ended a war and nobody noticed?
Hey Gil. I haven’t seen the terms of your surrender yet, so as far as I’m concerned the war’s still on.
What a complete out & out cold face lie by saying that the drug war ended two years ago.
Does the Czar remember Drug War I ? Has he noticed alcohol distributors no longer kill off the competition?!
Has he thought about how morally bankrupt it is to punish nonviolent adults for making a safer health choice, cannabis or marijuana, compared to other medicinal/social drugs?
Can he ‘splain why we let murderers and other violent predators roam free, while we police nonviolent adult social, medicinal and religious drug use? That’s soft on public safety, out-of-control, historically ignorant policy.
Less than 1% of US are actually addicts. Treatment is seven times less espensive than prison. Why not change to ethical policy and show fiscal responsibility; use resources to catch more violent and sexual predators or incarcerate more of those morally bankrupt, who sell drugs to children or drive intoxicated?
We can save lives instead of ruining them. Restore public and law enforcement safety! Get tough on violent crime! Restore Justice, the guardian of liberty!
http://mccoolportraits.com/2009rebelwithjustcause.htm
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Did they spike the Montana House’s water with LSD? Recently they’ve voted by overwhelming margins to overturn 2 popular votes including the repeal of medical cannabis. Then yesterday they voted 50-49 against requiring warning labels on medical cannabis. Go figure that one out.
Nope, I didnt see any white flag. No signing of a treaty or surrender on the deck of our warship named ‘Re-legalization ‘ accompanied by the ships ‘regulation’ and ‘education’.
No. All I heard was , “we give up” (cause thats what ending the WOD would mean) as he and his kind keep throwing fire power at us.
No the war isnt over…but the end is just beginning…and you will be given a white flag ,your ammo will run out or be taken away(money/lies) and we will beat you.
here’s the Seattle Times’ Bruce Ramsey on Gil’s visit today:
An Hour with the Drug Czar
“…all error is damaging; it is through being deceived that the human race has rendered itself unhappy.â€â€”Baron d’Holbach (1723-1789)
“A healthy society cannot come about when people study not for the purpose of gaining wisdom and knowledge but for the purpose of becoming government officials.“—Ye Shi (1150–1223)
Just watch this and u see..MUST SEE!!! Proof That Cannabis Can Cure Certain Forms of Cancer
http://watch.montanapbs.org/video/1825223761/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxObpkkX8fE
For me the Drug War Ends when my Employer is told it is Illegal for him to take Urine from me without my permission.. The illegal search and seizure of my bodily fluids by an employer against my will is a part of the drug war and it must stop………..
On dial up right now so I can’t watch the video, but, judging from the reactions, I haven’t missed anything.
I’m not a Biblical scholar, but recall quite a few passages, and Gil’s continued mendacity in the face of all the facts to the contrary reminds me of one from Ezekiel:
“Because, even because they [false prophets] have seduced my people, saying, “Peace!” when there is no peace; and when one [false prophet] builds up a wall, behold, they plaster it with whitewash”
The DrugWar is over; yeah, right. “Peace!”, when there is no peace’. I’m sure all the surviving Mex family members will find that immensely consoling as they keen over the cartel-slain bodies of their relatives. More covering flimsy walls with whitewash courtesy of a false prophet (“We’re winning!”). More BS.
Have these people no shame? No shame at all? They need to be dragged into court where there’s penalties for purveying falsehoods, and placed under oath and their BS cross-examined before the lying will stop.
Have these people no shame? No shame at all? They need to be dragged into court where there’s penalties for purveying falsehoods, and placed under oath and their BS cross-examined before the lying will stop.
This should be done with all government officials, if it were, the depth of corruption this country is drowning in would receed…
what you say is true as long the narks in question have a sense of honor and take their oaths seriously. but we know they wouldn’t be narks in the first place if they were honest and weren’t looking for an easy, high paid gig. we can’t stop the po-lice from lying with mere oaths because it’s so ingrained in the culture. a freind told me that he’s been to court many times and every time the po-lice lied. they just got make sure the bad guys don’t get off. if you watch”cops” you might notice the po-lice always say “stop resisting” as they(it’s usually more than one) beat the crap out of some poor citizen. they are already building their case, even if the guy is not resisting. i’m sure Rodney King was told to stop resisting while the peace officers laid the leadership on him.
Ya you see it happen every day. Not that all cops are bad but, its getting to where it hard to find them .WHere are the good cops when 6 are beating the shit out of a suspect? Last i heard..cops have to follow the law too..or am I mistaken. If so, good cops should be putting an end to this beat down shit .
The question is: how do we get them into court under oath? Is there no way for we the people to ask questions directly to people in power?
Chris, the way I see it is to use a drug arrest and trial to turn around and put drug prohibition itself in the docket by showing what its’ origins were to a jury that represents the racial makeup of America.
After all, if a jury is to decide a case based upon facts, and they don’t know the facts regarding the racially bigoted origin of the drug laws (as just about 98% of any given population doesn’t), and some minority members receive the same kind of revelation that anyone who researches this issue does…then you’ve lit the fuse on a pile of dynamite.
It has to be the kind of legal jiu jitusu worthy of the legendary Clarence Darrow. But it could be done.
… aye there’s the rub. The facts win. IF we get to play them. But the system is the deciderer and even tho’ it’s illogical in a very Mr Spock way to not allow a medical cannabis using patient to use that in their defense… but they don’t and they play according to their rules… and some facts just can’t be uttered… and that killed Peter McWilliams and that caused every other drug war fatality. Also… it is illogical to criminalize cannabis at all (and seriously, imagine Leonard Nimoy’s eyebrow raise). Pot is as old as civilization. Dr. Russo’s examination of the Chechen Man’s herb tells us that we’ve been trucking around with good herb for nearly 3,000 years. Cannabis archaeology… gotta love it, there is an epic quality to it.
There is an essential symbiosis between humans and plants, obviously… duh. We’ve been eating plants since there’s been a “we” and in that chomping we’ve learned. Well, some of us have…
And only a puritan of the worst stripe would criminalize positive, occasionally joyous experiences because people enjoy an occasional bit o’ bliss. Heck, they may as well try and ban sex. Oh wait…
In Michigan, the DEA has subpoenaed medical records from the State after busting a legal grow to determine whether or not the individuals they were growing for actually had medical need. The medical registration process with the State of Michigan is supposed to be, by Michigan law, kept private. So if the war on drugs is over with, how come the DEA are still busting people in Michigan and violating their Michigan rights?
In this,a free country,you have no rights…except that , the right to do as they say.
A cage is a cage no matter how comfortable.
Ended the drug war…and forgot to tell the other side. Who is deploying submarines in Columbia, and OWN large swaths of territory formerly controlled by the once friendly Nation to the South…and is also operating within the still friendly Neighbor to the North. They operate like guerrillas within the boundaries of our National Forests and have Beachheads in California, Oregon, Washington, Michigan etc.
When you look at it that way, it’s like Davy Crockett at the Alamo declaring victory as the gates burned and the walls began shedding Mexicans.
How can a government official lie like this and still expect to be trusted?
The Drug Czar’s prolific, lying and Bill’s proposed like this are why America is in such a deplorable state of loss of FREEDOMS ON A DAILY BASIS.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/03/04/bill-would-ban-photos-at-accident-sc
Bill would bar average folks from taking pics at accident scenes,yeah let’s lose more Freedoms everyday in good old USA. WTF.
Its sad, everyday , day in and day out, week after week, year after year…laws are made. I would guess 99% bar you from doing something. This country is being lawed right out of freedom. At this point wouldnt it be easier to make laws stating what we can do? Im sure it would be a short book…maybe a folder.
To those that say ” Oh but we are free . ” Ya ok.
One more time…No matter how comfortable the cage..its still a cage.
The lies only work on the tagically uninformed. Too bad, the uninformed also vote tragically. I wonder how Bill Bennett would have responded to LEAP, had there only been a LEAP back then. I wonder if Kerli will also have a spot on FoxNetwork waiting for him when he retires (resigns?).TheDrugWar… just keeps on tickin’…makes ya wonder.
wow the drug czar is saying the same old shit every drug czar has said over and over for decades — i’m shocked, shocked i tell ya!
So what was it that caused adult cigarette smoking to decline by 32.444% nationwide from 1988 to 2006?
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/tables/economics/consumption/
Tobacco is a lousy comparison to cannabis. Regardless, by proffering arguments to attack the unsupported assertion that cannabis use will increase one lends validity to the claim when there is insufficient data to determine whether such an increase is important at al.
I claim, “cannabis use will quintuple in the first year post re-legalization.” Let’s even go further and presume my assertion correct. Let’s also assume for the argument that cannabis users are strung out addicts and adding to their number is deleterious to the health of our society. Remember, we’re off in Know Nothing prohibitionist land in this hypothetical. Is my claim proof that these newly minted merry wanna dicks will carry any social cost whatsover? No, we need to know where the increase in use came from. If this newly minted reefer addick was sitting on a bar stool three sheets to the wind yesterday, it’s at worst completely neutral to the interests of society.
It is the overall number of degenerate addicts in the population than the user of one particular substance over another. I believe it to be absurd to claim that altar boys who sing in the church choir on Sundays and Wednesdays and spends the rest of his time volunteering at the soup kitchen and helping little old ladies negotiate busy traffic intersection will not be able to resist the seductive siren song of merry wanna addiction if it were re-legalized.
Does it really matter to California that the number of people in “treatment” for opioid addiction fell from 69,092 to to 36,489 in 2009 (-32,603) when you consider that the number in treatment for meth rose from 22,739 to 49,239(+26,500)?
In the same time frame the total in “treatment” was more or less steady from 172,277 in 1996 to 180,104 in 2009? When you factor in the increase of 6 million + residents during that time that even the marginal increase actually represents a lower % in “treatment” for anything.
http://wwwdasis.samhsa.gov/webt/quicklink/ca96.htm
http://wwwdasis.samhsa.gov/webt/quicklink/ca09.htm
You can take your forced re-education proposal back to Red China or over to Cuba where it belongs. Please don’t do us any “favors” if you consider that to be a valid solution.
Would you like to know what is infinitely less expensive than forced treatment? A taxed and regulated retail distribution chain. The crux of the biscuit is freedom and personal autonomy.
It’s my body, my choice. As long as you are trying to make people live their lives the way that you think correct you’re nothing but a petty little tin horn dictator wannabe.
If you want to talk about voluntary “treatment” on demand that’s perhaps workable.
I’ll bet you’ve never been in “treatment”, now have you? “Treatment” consists of 10-20 people convicted of mostly bogus malum prohibitum violations being heckled by a government stooge trying to steer you into going to the 12 step church and screaming over and over, “THE LAW IS THE LAW”.
Duncan, of course I mean voluntary treatment on demand. I am 100% libertarian!
I do apologize, I should have asked first. Unfortunately that’s a very sore spot in my psyche.
… i think you took Colleen’s words with a twist duncan… the Swiss’ HAT program is the best evidence that providing quality, health based treatment really works, for everybody. Treatment isn’t a dirty word and neither is DUI. But in this fubar system, almost every word that comes out of the prohibs’ mouths sounds fouled. I suspect it’s that perpetual sneer vibe they all emanate…
It’s kinda funny (but mostly sad) that the cure for that sneer is just an inhalation (or three) away!
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Allan, I guess I’m just a little (ok a lot) skeptical of the value of what masquerades as “treatment” in the US. But I’m certain that however it’s sliced and diced that the law has nothing to do with any kind of illness. Kleptomaniacs certainly break the law, but would engage in their behavior even if it were legal. When the primary object of a course of “treatment” is to force those being “treated” into complying with the law I don’t need anything more to think the entire charade a joke. Couple it with the insistence that those being “treated” join a religious cult and it’s nothing but bullshit.
I can’t imagine the Swiss trying to shove religion down a person’s throat, and they certainly can’t be screaming “ITS THE LAW!” since those in the HAT aren’t breaking the law. I’m still very skeptical because the sum of human knowledge today doesn’t include an understanding of the underlying causes of addiction. Heck, just tossing potheads into the mix demonstrates that they can’t even accurately identify those who are suffering. While we might laugh at 16th century doctors prescribing bleeding and a haircut to cure someone’s “humors” it was nevertheless a step required for human medicine to advance. That didn’t make it a valid treatment, more akin to Tom Edison saying that there’s no such thing as failure, because if something doesn’t work you’ve succeeded in proving that it doesn’t. Yes, if Mr. Edison hadn’t been an inventor he certainly would have had a lucrative career as a spin doctor.
Sharing my post at the Wall Street Journal with you fwiw:
I just watched an interview with our “drug czar” in the wake of a major newspaper editorial calling for the legalization of marijuana in Washington (a call partly justified by the fact that in Seattle, there were ZERO arrests at least at the past two annual hemp festivals, despite roughly 200,000 people attending the event in a not-so-marijuana-absent way). If you want, you can see the interview uncut: http://www.kirotv.com/video/27081445/index.html
According to our drug czar, there is no war on drugs anymore. Stunning. So what is going on in Mexico with the drug cartels? What do we call SWAT style raids into people’s homes based at times solely on the word of a drug informant (e.g. search for “Mayor Calvo”, and learn his family’s horrifying botched drug raid ordeal)? What do we call the helicopters flying over our national forests, where well-armed criminal organizations can be found growing marijuana? What is the job of the Drug Enforcement Agency, and why are they so well-armed?
The new euphemism is “treatment”. You use a plant for which no CONCLUSIVE science exists proving any harm in moderate use, and get caught under a law found constitutional by way of our Commerce Clause? Off to “treatment” you go!
This is how the likes of our drug czar work. They effectively force a large percentage of people caught possessing illegal drugs into choosing treatment over jail time, and then point to that group as evidence regarding how dangerous the drugs are.
They also point to their legislative efforts to strengthen our drug laws as proof of how dangerous the drugs are (an example of that is in the interview, memory serving — there is only so much lying I can retain).
He mentioned “drugged driving” and how serious of a problem it is given the number of people testing positive for marijuana while driving. What he avoids mentioning is the kind of test predominantly used does not necessarily detect marijuana “impairment”. If you used marijuana two weeks prior to the test, you will produce a “drugged driving” result. Imagine having a few beers two weeks ago, and then being arrested for drunk driving, because a drunk driving test returned positive.
Because most Americans never care enough to challenge the credibility of our drug czar and his ilk (especially our mainstream media), we simply allow billions of our hard-earned taxpayer dollars to annually support the so-called no longer existing war on drugs, without ever requiring a reasonable cost/benefit analysis in return.
These prohibitionists count on you being too busy to scrutinize their actions (often abusing their credibility as community leaders). They count on the likes of yours truly to remain silent, because most such people have to protect their family from possible exposure to such legal corruption — such silence allowing the idiotic drug user stereotype to dominate the public majority minds.
While I love my family, our founding fathers sacrificed their lives (and those of their loved ones) to establish our nation against the abuse of power.
Drug abuse is serious. Power abuse, given its generally broad scope of destruction, is far more serious.
Our drug czar (and any similar prohibitionist) has a serious power abuse problem, and literally nothing shy of our Constitution and fundamental rights are at stake, at least given the legal precedence established.
Perhaps “We the people” should explore “treatment” as a remedy for eliminating the abuse of power?
Perhaps “We the people†should explore “treatment†as a remedy for eliminating the abuse of power?
Absolutely Scott, power is addictive as anything else. Now you know if we should put that arguement in front of public officials they would laugh. They would not want to have themselves seen as addicts and that arguement would go no where, even thought we all know its true.
‘Treatment’ for the abuse of power could take many forms.
Revolution in the form of protests demanding government to reform and give power back to the masses…humm..looking around, that seems to be happening in various forms around the world.
Prosecution of those officials that have been caught abusing power. that seems to be happening In the US, only it has limited effect due to the fact government weilds the tools of power(laws) and cant twist it to their advantage and avoid ‘treatment’.
Assasination, which is and unwarranted and ugly permenant way of ‘treatment’. This is not a recomemded method of treatment and I do not support it. It doesnt work with addicts in other countries.The abuse seems to crop up anyway.
Taking away officials tool of abuse. Eliminate laws taht allow them to abuse power, and the people. Doing this would require electing officials that would not be susceptable to the abuse of power…humm, that seems to be something that is happening but, I have reservations about people being resistant to abuse of power.
Our founders instituted a ‘treatment center’ because they knew abuse would happen.
Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends [life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness] it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government…
Thomas Jefferson (The Declaration of Independence)
Yes ‘treatment’ is available to them and must be forced on them as it is on us.
I find it very disturing how our governmet views what is going on at our border. They are starting to see it as a national secutity threat, which it is in my veiw, but are flurting with violent means of a solution, military on our border. At what point will we be drawn into a civil war there? Why do our government officials always veiw violent means as a way to solve problems when there a non-violent alternative. They refuse to even talk about this non- violent alternative to violence and more death and destruction…legalization of cannabis . It would be a start, yet they dont even want to try it.
Its disturbing to think the only solution our government can come up with is more violence, more death , more destruction. ..and that on that side of the border.
Here they see more arrests, more ruined families, more prisons,more laws removing the freedom of the people, more taxes to fund this ruining of America, a further militarized police force, deaths of non-violent drug comsumers, deaths of innocents caught up in thier raids, dead pets on and on..
They see all this as the solution here…
Disturbing…scary…very saddening.
Has our government been paralized ? Are they so Politically correct that violence is the only answer. Who are they afraid of offending? Not us, thats for sure.
Legalization,regulation,education.
The non-violent means to end violence, death and destruction here and there.
So far, the Obama administration continues the warring policies and tries to sell it as a changeling, Obamanation of America! But all of US with a burning desire for liberty; with a gnawing hunger for small government, true believers in the American dream of self-government, we know that is not our real true America.
Our founders’ vision of self-government, of an America free of big government oppression and tyranny, is the one true patriots still hold dear. We are blessed with the Internet, a powerful tool we the people pack! It is a window of opportunity in our nonviolent struggle for good over evil. It continues to revolutionize the way we communicate and has enormous potential for reshaping the political process.
Amen McCool !
Gil, you need to look in a mirror, YOU ARE THE EMPEROR AND YOUR WEARING NO CLOTHS SIR.
I think thats all that needs said.
Let’s not forget that droopy dog said the drug war is over when the television stations start reporting on the outdoor grow busts.
Do you think the news stations will quote droopy saying the drug war is over?
The bottom line is that the federal law, i.e. Schedule I Cannabis, is a damned lie, Kerli. Do you expect us to respect THAT?
Gil’s lies are easier to read than a used piece of toilet paper. And his “neutral” demeanor won’t change that one bit. He speaks of MMJ as some sort of “fraud.” He should know FRAUD. He exudes it every time he opens his mouth! And he’s not even good at it, either!!
The Drug Czar is nothing more than an incompetent liar!!!
The strategies revealed in the domestic and border drug wars are nicely summarized by Drury, a harsh critic of the Leo Strauss school of politics (AKA Neo-Cons) in Chicago. Neo-Cons would probably agree with the following statement:
“[T]he function of [Neo-Moron ONDCP] politics is not to uphold justice but to bridle evil. This can be accomplished only with even greater evil. Social order is founded on terror of sufficient magnitude to subdue all others.â€â€”Shadia B. Drury (2004).
So is Kerlikowske saying he’s ended the Drug War only to initiate a Terror War on Drug Users? If so, it’s old news. The Director really can’t make any believable claims about ending metaphors or blood baths.
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IT’S true! According to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting statistics, between January 2010 and September 2010, 31 kops per 100,000 committed homicide and 73 committed sexual assault. In comparison to 100,000 of the general population (this includes blacks, whites, Mexicans, gang members etc) only 5 citizens committed homicide and 29 committed sexual assaults. full story
The Seattle Times Calls for Pot Legalization; The Drug Czar Calls the Seattle Times — Your Tax Dollars at Work Stifling Debate?
Several weeks ago, President Obama stated that he believed the subject of drug legalization and regulation was “an entirely legitimate topic for debate.” Yet recent actions by White House Office of National Drug Control Policy head Gil Kerlikowske imply that this administration has no interest in having this debate in the public arena — at least not in Seattle. full story
The Drug Czar Shows Weakness in the Marijuana Legalization Debate
An Hour With The Drug Czar
CN Source: Seattle Times March 05, 2011 Seattle, WA
The Editorial Board’s meeting with Gil Kerlikowske turned into a big deal. Kerlikowske, the former police chief here in Seattle, is now director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy. In other words, he’s the “Drug Czar†— a title he made fun of in our meeting when he responded to a question by saying, “If I knew the answer, I’d be more than a czar. I’d be king.†In the paper of Sunday, Feb 20, The Times published an editorial arguing that marijuana be legalized, regulated, taxed and sold by the state of Washington. Two days later we received a request from Kerlikowske’s office that he wanted to talk to us; he could pay a visit March 4 at 2:45 p.m. Sure, we said. full story
What can be said? This bozo is paid to lie.
Of course he was there to lean on the Times. He didn’t need to bully them with words. He flew 2500 miles on a government jet with the fucking Presidential Seal on it. His imperiousness asked for the meeting, he set the time, the day, and I bet twenty dollars right now he used the old power play of keeping them waiting. The Times said yes Sir, we’ll be there Sir, and we’ll make time Sir.
Here in Primate land, that’s Monkey-speak for total submission. Set an appointment with me and TRY to keep me waiting. That is submission, as a psychologist I would never accommodate late clients. You sacrifice your position as the person in control from the git-go.
The online Live chat meeting at the Seattle Times, Legalize marijuana in Washington state? was a joke. (March 3) – A pathetic, ridiculous joke, I won’t be subscribing anytime soon.
Tried to bring up the meeting notes to reference them here. Can’t get it to load.
I am quite discouraged today, guess that makes a lying Prohibitionist happy.
Well, another day, another bogus reefer madness “study” “linking” cannabis to mental illness. But an amusing thing is happening. The knee jerk reactionaries seem to have glommed on to these studies and are now connecting BHO and his policies as the fruit of a cannabis induced brain defect.
U.S.A! Qaeda Extremism, Terrorism, Hypocrites & Fools
“I have examined all the known superstitions of the word, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth.”
~ Thomas Jefferson,
third President of the USA, letter to William Short
The Drug Czar Shows Weakness in the Marijuana Legalization Debate
by Scott Morgan, March 06, 2011
There’s been much discussion recently about the Drug Czar’s request to meet with the Seattle Times editorial board in an apparent response to this editorial endorsement of marijuana legalization. You can read here about how that meeting went, but I think this video more perfectly captures the absurdity of the situation: full story
Christian Extremism and Terrorism In History
“As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?”
John Adams,
letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec. 27, 1816
OH No dunkem’s mentors are just degenerate liars afterall! Not a surprize or anythingI>
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Hannity, Limbaugh and O’Reilly Are AFL-CIO Union-Affiliated Members
COLUMNIST’S ATTITUDE ON DRUG ABUSE ‘DEFIES BELIEF’
We are a group of public and private-sector doctors from more than 30 countries who treat patients with drug problems. As such, we feel compelled to respond to Ian O’Doherty’s writings on February 18 and again on February 22 calling for the sterilisation of people who use drugs. The bigoted attitude adopted by the author defies belief and his hatred of drug users is so deep that he wishes them dead. We are astonished that a mainstream Irish newspaper would print such a vitriolic and disgusting article. full story
“The hocus-pocus phantasy of a God, like another Cerberus, with one body and three heads, had its birth and growth in the blood of thousands and thousands of martyrs.”
~ Thomas Jefferson,
Jefferson’s Works, Vol. IV, 360, Randolph’s ed.
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Kentucky reduced the penalties for petty possession and police will issue a citation rather than arresting the victim. This is the same State that made their “drug free” school zones more than half a mile, 1000 yards. Sexual intercourse will still get you a trip to the pokey. No wonder I couldn’t get laid when I lived in KY.
so if you’re caught smoking herb in KY it’s just a ticket, but if you’re smoking herb AND having sex, they’ll arrest you…
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Well they have to protect the farm animals you know.
Have you ever heard that a person is required to bathe at least once a year under Kentucky law?
There’s a law they ought to enforce. But do showers count?
If I remember correctly, Texas repealed their law against having sex with animals (bestiality) only in the last couple of years. Meaning you can still go to jail for smoking marijuana, but if you want to have sex with your goat, that’s O.K.
I have no idea if you can still go to jail for sex with the goat if you are smoking marijuana at the same time….
Rednecks are some weird people. I used to live amogst ’em and even then, I tried like hell to avoid them.
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IIRC there was a case that went to the Kentucky Supreme Court in 1955 or 1956 that did establish that showering counts as bathing. Of course I could be just making that up.
Kentucky, where the men are men and the sheep are nervous.
@ darkcycle… I used to be stationed on the Texas/Mexico border in a little town by the name of Del Rio, talk about redneck… I drove a VW van (this is in 1974…) at the time, had an american flag next to my driver’s door window, a sticker for the base on my windshield and a One Oat Willie (one man, one oat!) bumpersticker on my rear bumper (Onward thru the Fog). One morning I came out and there was a bullet hole in that driver’s door window. When I sat inside, the bullet hole was head high and right about where my ear would be… I couldn’t wait to get my discharge papers and get outta there!
Of course I did learn later on in life that rednecks are everywhere… and now I are one!
Heres a story pete may not have picked up because hes out and about. Check out B’mans blog.Join the comments.
http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2011/03/07/the-fast-and-furious-atf-gun-runners-perpetuate-the-drug-war-lie/#comment-14604
Well, Hillary found a way to get rid of the guns on the US side of the border. Now, if she could only handle the problem on THIS side! Yeah, Hillary, I forgot.
There’s Too Much Money In It To Stop!!
http://www.freep.com/article/20110306/NEWS05/103060497/1007/news05/Hash-Bash-organizer-marijuana-champion-facing-felony-charges-related-raid
I plan on going.
I must have made a wrong turn,
can someone direct me to America?
The First Amendment to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law “respecting an establishment of religion”, impeding the free exercise of religion, infringing on the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.
4/20 @ 4:20
Seattle Hempfest and Toronto Freedom Festival in Danger?
Mar 4 2011
Watch Cannabis Culture News LIVE for the latest news and views on pot politics and the marijuana community. In this episode: Will the Toronto Freedom Festival and Seattle Hempfest happen this year? Organizers of both events join the show to discuss being denied permits for their events by their respective city governments. full story
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Yeah. Hempfest doesn’t look good. Construction that will have minimal impact on the festival is the city’s excuse. On the flip side of the coin, going to the ‘fest the last couple of years it has been obvious that a MUCH larger venue is needed. I believe Vivian’s objective is to keep it within Seattle, and that kinda leaves…not much…well there’s Discovery Park, but much of that is still owned by the U.S. Government, it was a Nat’l Guard Base, and a training base in WWII. But cramming a half million Peeps into Myrtle Edwards park is asking for trouble. It’s got too damn big.
Allan, you for sure needed a “Don’t shoot. I’m your local hippie.” sticker on that van!
How come when people get to talk to Gil, they don’t come armed with facts and just tear him up on his utter lies?