Just how rare are those accidents?

Whenever we have another one of those accidental shootings during drug raids, the officials are always quick to assert that such a thing is unbelievably rare.

Really?

Can they still call it rare when it no longer suffices to list the victim by name?

“Oh, you’re talking about the Jose Colon who was accidentally shot by police during a drug raid in Bronx, New York?

I was talking about the Jose Colon who was accidentally shot by police during a drug raid in Suffolk, New York.”

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10 Responses to Just how rare are those accidents?

  1. darkcycle says:

    They’re not rare. They are just not reported on. These do not as a general rule make the national press. Dynamic entry is a high stress, extreme environment. Live ammunition, adrenalin, unknown environment, and the cavalier way it’s done today, they may not even know how many occupants to be subdued, all of these make a dangerous combination. Errors are by extension common. The numbers aren’t available, they don’t want them tracked. It’s a game with a lot of losers.
    The idea that dynamic entry can be accomplished without mistakes is rediculous.
    “No battle plan survives contact with the enemy” Von Clauswitz

  2. Cannabis says:

    They’re rare ’cause we say that they’re rare. Nothing to see here sir, move along, move along…

  3. darkcycle says:

    Really great analysis of the reform movement and the challenges we face ahead by Jon Gettman posted up at High Times:
    http://hightimes.com/legal/jgettman/6923

  4. Sick........! says:

    These raids shouldnt be happening at all to call them rare or not…..period.

    Our government creates the fear and the answer to the fear.

    This world makes me SICK !

  5. Dante says:

    “Whenever we have another one of those accidental shootings during drug raids, the officials are always quick to assert that such a thing is unbelievably rare.”

    Agreed. One more disturbing trend, whenever the police commit a “bad shoot” and kill an innocent citizen they immediately prop up a spokesperson (usually an attractive female – wonder why?) to try to get out in front of the story with their spin on the story.

    The problem? No matter what state, what town, what police department gives the statement it is virtually identical to all the previous statements given when there is a “bad shoot”.

    Almost like they are reading from a “bad shoot” playbook.

    Almost like they know this happens so often that they need to plan for it, and execute that plan.

  6. Sick........! says:

    What really gets me is how we treat life. If someone ‘Important’ get shot, it fan fare ,patriotism and sympathy. When an unknown is shot…they are dirt,scum,undesirables…so its ok. Life is life, I dont care who it is or for what reason. One life isnt worth more than another.

    Hell when that mayors house was raided and his dogs shot it made news. This didnt even make news…his life was worth less than those dogs? What if the mayors wife or child was the ones shot then what…outrage?

    SICK !

  7. they rounded up a bunch of mafia dudes last week — did anyone get killed?

  8. ezrydn says:

    That WAS noticable, wasn’t it, Brian?!! People grabbed for murder and not one shot fired. However, go after one cannabis toker and the armory is emptied out, the armored vehicle is gassed up and the goon squad activated. Maybe the FEDS would like to speak to THAT situation.

    Are they that scared of dope smokers? Blind grandmothers? Sick citizens who listen to their doctors? Do we cause THAT MUCH fear to the “thin, blue line?”

    And when the populace hands them a new law to enforce, they go STUPID suddenly and say either “I don’t understand it” or, rather, “I refuse to understand it.”

    Before, we knew the “ball was rolling” but couldn’t see it. Today, we know it’s rolling because we can all hear it. And it’s getting louder, and louder, and….. Until, in the word of a renowned reformer, it goes “THUD!”

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  10. darkcycle says:

    Ezzy, you don’t know how right you are. Here’s my best example from just down my street.
    The international President of the “Banditos” motorcycle “club” lived one half mile down the road from me. Afew years back they went and got Bandito Gene. The ATF, FBI, DEA, and the locals were all involved. They went to his HOUSE to get him. Dynamic entry? Armored cars and tear gas? For the sake of arguement, I’ll acknowledge this was a dangerous man; he controlled one of the largest criminal enterprises on the West coast, if not the entire U.S., but how did they get him? They used the ruse of getting him outside in the middle of the day to sign for a package. And they took him down then. Those cowards weren’t going NEAR that house blind, they’re not stupid.
    So. Do you know why they use these swat raids to go after non-violent potheads? Figured it out yet? WE’RE PRACTICE. They like to practice on EXPENDABLES that they know are unlikely to put up a fight. Faced with the apprehension of a real, potentially violent and powerful criminal, they use any chicken-shit idea they can come up with to avoid having to breach a door. I’m calling cowardice. Craven chicken-shit cowardice.

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