Staged, a total fiction. All for the cameras. A little Hash (looked like grade one or two, ….that was no “00” they were burning there), some soda powder, and the big, smiling Afghan Drug Lord/Narcotics cop. Reminds me of that old Pic with Anslinger where he is supposedly burning Marijuana, but he can be seen setting fire to a bunch of packing material.
You can almost hear the Afghan guy laughing at the ‘stupid foreigners” watching that display. And the pathetic little pile they burned….that wouldn’t fill a single semi trailer. That much gets out of Afghanistan every day, possibly every hour of every day…At least the Brit guy wasn’t buying what they were selling.
Well that gave me a flashback to 1980 and 1982. In 1980 we worked through a huge pile of cannabis that had been ‘rescued’ from being incinerated by LE. I never did figure out the logistics of how they got it out of the furnace but it was obvious that it had been smoke ‘damaged’. That was some exceptionally good pot. Yeah, right, they’re making pot 20x better than that stuff nowadays, get out of town.
In 1982 the Afghanis were sending over this primo extra good sticky black hashish and we were congratulating ourselves for helping the poor downtrodden Afghanis in their fight against the oppression of the USSR’s assimilation machine by providing them funding to be able to fight the commies. The diametric opposite of today’s guilt trip that we’re funding terrorists in their jihad against truth, justice and the American way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAROcbv4gco
It wasn’t until this century in California that I ran into hashish that was anywhere near as good. Of course American ‘full melt’ hash just left that 1982 shit as an also ran in the quality competition. I still can’t deal with 20x but 3x or 4x better isn’t out of the question. The problem with that comparison is that the same methodology used to produce full melt hash could have been used on the cannabis that was widely available in the 1960s and 1970s. Indeed the top shelf American hashish is extracted from lower quality parts of the plant. Nowadays I save all of my stems and about twice a year extract hash oil. I prefer oil because as everyone here knows or should know by now, Duncan doesn’t light his cannabis/extracts on fire and then intentionally inhale the gasses produced by combustion. Yes folks you can take perfectly unsmokeable trash vegetation and make up several grams of absolutely mind melting hash oil. From time to time I mourn all the THC I’ve thrown away in my day due to ignorance.
Water process Hash making is a very new technique, (it does use an old principal), we didn’t have the modern bag extractor system until Mila and Bubbleman perfected it in the ’80’s. Traditional techniques aren’t anywhere near as efficient and can’t make use of the “trash”. And in exchange for potency and purity, full melt gives up the flavors of traditional hash. I’ll still take some “double-ought” Afghan or Nepalese temple balls over my best full melt hash, any day.
And despite the utter embarrassment of this Afghan event, who can seriously stand up and say that drug enforcement has been more successful in North America?
Some of the goodies they were pretending to burn are actually entering the UK via RAF Brize Norton. Last summer while visiting the UK, I was shown a rather large bar of black Afghani hash. My host, who I’ve known since the 70s, was very sure of it’s origin, route and means of entry.
Good one Servetus. Under the Taliban, Opium production dropped off to next to nothing. It took a good old USA military intervention to restore the poppy to it’s number one crop status.
Meanwhile, PETE it’s helpful to many readers if you include at least a short summary of the content for embedded video clips. I’ve been burned so many times in various WWW travels by someone posting a “Must See!” video clip (I realize you didn’t make that claim) that I rarely take the time to watch them unless I’ve got a short summary from a trusted overseer.
Steve: From the years I’ve sat on this couch of Pete’s, I’ve never known him to post a “hazardous” or “boring” video which you make reverence to. If it’s posted here, it’s worth the effort to watch.
Good gracious,this is beyond pathetic,Government Officials from all over possibly some of these gentlemen still involve in drug dealing themselves a sham, and funniest comment from Russian its Soda powder or whatever could have been Baby powder they were burning and could have said it was Cocaine and just had a little coke to make it legit.WHATEVER. ANOTHER EMPTY sad shell of a day in the Drug War. Delusions
Yes, it was drug war theatre at it’s worst. Devoid of any substance whatsoever, and comical in the light of the knowledge that the current Afghan government is a U.S. installed and supported narco-state. Again, I would bet my left testicle that our CIA is making it’s black ops budget by smuggling heroin out of Afghanistan and into Russia and from there all of Europe. The glut of Heroin is even finding it’s way here to the good old USA. Where every addict can do his part to support the American Empire by shooting up, then the prison industry by getting busted. Arrested with product provided by our own government. So, tell me again how using drugs supports terrorists?
darkcycle wrote:
“Under the Taliban, Opium production dropped off to next to nothing. It took a good old USA military intervention to restore the poppy to it’s number one crop status.”
Has it occurred to anyone else that might be exactly why our government sent troops to Afghanistan?
Perhaps the powers that be were losing money due to the efforts of the Taliban to eradicate the opium trade; and what better way to deal with that little problem and get production back up to normal, than a war, which is also profitable for the PTB. Win-Win in their eyes. Not to mention this al Quaida they keep telling us are our enemy were created and trained by the CIA. Oops, I guess I did mention it.
If you live in the UK, you can watch the series here http://www.channel4.com/programmes/our-drugs-war. I advise it, was a very good show. There is a poll accompanying the series – 96.58% of ~4000 votes in favour of legalising some or all drugs..
darkcycle, don’t make the mistake of thinking that the Taliban ordered the Afghani’s to quit producing poppies for any other reason than the desire to keep their funding spigot turned on. The fact of the matter is that when they ‘stopped’ production of opium poppies they had a back stock that would have covered the junkies worldwide for several years and pricing was ready to collapse.
It’s like how some Know Nothings will say, “well them Chinese are commies, mass murdering, iron fisted, power hungry authoritarian dictators but they can’t be all bad. After all they told us that everybody in China quit getting high overnight.” The only evidence of this is the self serving statements of the Chinese government. The Chinese communists have been proven to be bald faced liars.
So, how does one set about proving that black market contraband wasn’t produced? The guy from the UN said they went out and looked for it.
Nevermind that we’re talking about a commodity that is produced in secret locations. If the clown from the UN thinks that he can say unequivocally that no opium was being produced, why the heck didn’t they just go to these places and eradicate the poppies that were harvested in the past couple of decades? If they knew were to look how did any opium ever get brought to harvest?
Mullah Amir Mohammed Haqqani, the Taliban’s top drug official in Nangarhar, said the ban would remain regardless of whether the Taliban received aid or international recognition.
“It is our decree that there will be no poppy cultivation. It is banned forever in this country,” he said. “Whether we get assistance or not, poppy growing will never be allowed again in our country.
Mullah Haqqani said that in 2001.
Why in the world would anyone grant credibility to members of a cohort that has no compunction about lying to infidels? Why in the world would the Taliban care if the west was flooded by high grade, less expensive heroin? I’d expect that they would cheer that result based on their published dogma.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/28/world/middleeast/28opium.html
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“there has been a coalition between the Taliban and the opium smugglers. This year, they have set up a commission to tax the harvest.†In return, he said, the Taliban had offered opium farmers protection from the government’s eradication efforts. The switch in strategy has an obvious logic: it provides opium money for the Taliban to sustain itself and helps it to win over the farming communities.”
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“Hey, it says ‘soda’ right there, that’s not heroin!” says the Russian guy. Sometimes they burn manioc flour, too.
Staged, a total fiction. All for the cameras. A little Hash (looked like grade one or two, ….that was no “00” they were burning there), some soda powder, and the big, smiling Afghan Drug Lord/Narcotics cop. Reminds me of that old Pic with Anslinger where he is supposedly burning Marijuana, but he can be seen setting fire to a bunch of packing material.
You can almost hear the Afghan guy laughing at the ‘stupid foreigners” watching that display. And the pathetic little pile they burned….that wouldn’t fill a single semi trailer. That much gets out of Afghanistan every day, possibly every hour of every day…At least the Brit guy wasn’t buying what they were selling.
Well that gave me a flashback to 1980 and 1982. In 1980 we worked through a huge pile of cannabis that had been ‘rescued’ from being incinerated by LE. I never did figure out the logistics of how they got it out of the furnace but it was obvious that it had been smoke ‘damaged’. That was some exceptionally good pot. Yeah, right, they’re making pot 20x better than that stuff nowadays, get out of town.
In 1982 the Afghanis were sending over this primo extra good sticky black hashish and we were congratulating ourselves for helping the poor downtrodden Afghanis in their fight against the oppression of the USSR’s assimilation machine by providing them funding to be able to fight the commies. The diametric opposite of today’s guilt trip that we’re funding terrorists in their jihad against truth, justice and the American way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAROcbv4gco
It wasn’t until this century in California that I ran into hashish that was anywhere near as good. Of course American ‘full melt’ hash just left that 1982 shit as an also ran in the quality competition. I still can’t deal with 20x but 3x or 4x better isn’t out of the question. The problem with that comparison is that the same methodology used to produce full melt hash could have been used on the cannabis that was widely available in the 1960s and 1970s. Indeed the top shelf American hashish is extracted from lower quality parts of the plant. Nowadays I save all of my stems and about twice a year extract hash oil. I prefer oil because as everyone here knows or should know by now, Duncan doesn’t light his cannabis/extracts on fire and then intentionally inhale the gasses produced by combustion. Yes folks you can take perfectly unsmokeable trash vegetation and make up several grams of absolutely mind melting hash oil. From time to time I mourn all the THC I’ve thrown away in my day due to ignorance.
Remember to take good care of your teeth. One day you may owe your very life to good dental hygiene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mdKrNT29kE
Water process Hash making is a very new technique, (it does use an old principal), we didn’t have the modern bag extractor system until Mila and Bubbleman perfected it in the ’80’s. Traditional techniques aren’t anywhere near as efficient and can’t make use of the “trash”. And in exchange for potency and purity, full melt gives up the flavors of traditional hash. I’ll still take some “double-ought” Afghan or Nepalese temple balls over my best full melt hash, any day.
Duncan, I hope you’re not using BHO, Butane extraction is beyond dangerous and into reckless…
And despite the utter embarrassment of this Afghan event, who can seriously stand up and say that drug enforcement has been more successful in North America?
Some of the goodies they were pretending to burn are actually entering the UK via RAF Brize Norton. Last summer while visiting the UK, I was shown a rather large bar of black Afghani hash. My host, who I’ve known since the 70s, was very sure of it’s origin, route and means of entry.
british-soldiers-smuggle-heroin-from-afghanistan
You burn sixteen tons, and what do you get?
Another day older and more drug war debt.
Good one Servetus. Under the Taliban, Opium production dropped off to next to nothing. It took a good old USA military intervention to restore the poppy to it’s number one crop status.
Nice Nighthawks reference from Servetus…..
Meanwhile, PETE it’s helpful to many readers if you include at least a short summary of the content for embedded video clips. I’ve been burned so many times in various WWW travels by someone posting a “Must See!” video clip (I realize you didn’t make that claim) that I rarely take the time to watch them unless I’ve got a short summary from a trusted overseer.
cheers from Clearwater and oh yeah Happy NY
Steve: From the years I’ve sat on this couch of Pete’s, I’ve never known him to post a “hazardous” or “boring” video which you make reverence to. If it’s posted here, it’s worth the effort to watch.
BTW, all you Couch Sitters, Happy New Year!!
Happy Hippy to all of you,,,,,and to our Congress,,,,,
May the bird of paradise fly up your nose,may an elephant caress you with his toes,,,,,
Good gracious,this is beyond pathetic,Government Officials from all over possibly some of these gentlemen still involve in drug dealing themselves a sham, and funniest comment from Russian its Soda powder or whatever could have been Baby powder they were burning and could have said it was Cocaine and just had a little coke to make it legit.WHATEVER. ANOTHER EMPTY sad shell of a day in the Drug War. Delusions
Yes, it was drug war theatre at it’s worst. Devoid of any substance whatsoever, and comical in the light of the knowledge that the current Afghan government is a U.S. installed and supported narco-state. Again, I would bet my left testicle that our CIA is making it’s black ops budget by smuggling heroin out of Afghanistan and into Russia and from there all of Europe. The glut of Heroin is even finding it’s way here to the good old USA. Where every addict can do his part to support the American Empire by shooting up, then the prison industry by getting busted. Arrested with product provided by our own government. So, tell me again how using drugs supports terrorists?
darkcycle wrote:
“Under the Taliban, Opium production dropped off to next to nothing. It took a good old USA military intervention to restore the poppy to it’s number one crop status.”
Has it occurred to anyone else that might be exactly why our government sent troops to Afghanistan?
Perhaps the powers that be were losing money due to the efforts of the Taliban to eradicate the opium trade; and what better way to deal with that little problem and get production back up to normal, than a war, which is also profitable for the PTB. Win-Win in their eyes. Not to mention this al Quaida they keep telling us are our enemy were created and trained by the CIA. Oops, I guess I did mention it.
If there’s still anybody out there who doubts the CIA’s involvement in drug-running then they should watch “Mike Ruppert – CIA and Drug Running (1997)”
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7009998324250484369#
And if you really want to know how deep prohibition engendered corruption runs in America, then watch the following:
Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKHpVw4yTb4
There are another 5 parts.
or check this out : http://www.ciadrugs.com/
If you live in the UK, you can watch the series here http://www.channel4.com/programmes/our-drugs-war. I advise it, was a very good show. There is a poll accompanying the series – 96.58% of ~4000 votes in favour of legalising some or all drugs..
Another vid of Angus MacQueen at a Transform event talking about his series http://transform-drugs.blogspot.com/2010/12/watch-speakers-from-transforms-ending.html (other videos there are really good too!)
These drug warriors can`t be that stupid. They have to somehow be on the take. Who is worst?
darkcycle, don’t make the mistake of thinking that the Taliban ordered the Afghani’s to quit producing poppies for any other reason than the desire to keep their funding spigot turned on. The fact of the matter is that when they ‘stopped’ production of opium poppies they had a back stock that would have covered the junkies worldwide for several years and pricing was ready to collapse.
It’s like how some Know Nothings will say, “well them Chinese are commies, mass murdering, iron fisted, power hungry authoritarian dictators but they can’t be all bad. After all they told us that everybody in China quit getting high overnight.” The only evidence of this is the self serving statements of the Chinese government. The Chinese communists have been proven to be bald faced liars.
So, how does one set about proving that black market contraband wasn’t produced? The guy from the UN said they went out and looked for it.
http://www.opioids.com/afghanistan/index.html
Nevermind that we’re talking about a commodity that is produced in secret locations. If the clown from the UN thinks that he can say unequivocally that no opium was being produced, why the heck didn’t they just go to these places and eradicate the poppies that were harvested in the past couple of decades? If they knew were to look how did any opium ever get brought to harvest?
Why in the world would anyone grant credibility to members of a cohort that has no compunction about lying to infidels? Why in the world would the Taliban care if the west was flooded by high grade, less expensive heroin? I’d expect that they would cheer that result based on their published dogma.
From 2008: