Hilariously pathetic.
Yesterday, I noted that Transform had found a page on the UNODC site that was remarkably reasonable.
It actually talked about the effects of cannabis laws.
A number of countries are debating their marijuana laws, in most cases, trying to decide whether the penalties for possessing small amounts of cannabis should be reduced. Some advocate legalization of cannabis, that is, making it available through controlled, legal sources, as are tobacco and alcohol. However, most policymakers see that option as a huge social experiment, with outcomes that are difficult to predict. Others advocate that possessing personal amounts of cannabis should no longer be viewed as a criminal offence and penalties should be reduced. This is because, even though marijuana is not a harmless drug, an increasing number of health officials, researchers and politicians in these countries view the penalty to be out of proportion to the potential harm of using cannabis. The following are some of the arguments being made for reducing the penalties so that possession of small amounts of cannabis is no longer a criminal offence:
And it went on to talk about the damage that a criminal offense causes to people, the fact that changes in penalty don’t seem to affect amount of use, resources could be used better elsewhere, etc.
Great stuff. And true.
Well, it had been on their website for some time, perhaps years. The day after Transform found it and mentioned it, POOF!, it was gone. Wouldn’t do to have reasonable facts on their website.
Links:
- The archived UNODC page before they cleaned it up.
- The new UNODC page, now missing section 4.
- The post from Transform noting the change.
Also, a link from Transform: Latin America Marijuana Movement May Undercut Drug War, UN Says
Been saying it for years. The other countries of the world, sensing Uncle’s loss of influence lately, have been engaging in their own drugs policies, albeit very quietly.
Needless to say, the UN’s International Narcotics Control Board (which can’t control squat) is none too happy. And they blame drug law reformers for that:
“If not “resolutely counteredâ€, the decriminalization movement “poses a threat†to the “coherence and effectiveness†of the international drug control system and sends “the wrong message to the general public,†the report said.
Oh boy. How great an admission of vulnerability can you possibly get? They’re running scared…of ideas. Just ideas. We’re a ‘threat’ to the ‘coherence and effectiveness’ of the DrugWar? We must be ‘resolutely countered’?
How, pray tell? By debate? I’d be glad to, fellas, I’d be positively tickled. Bring it on. Just let me bring several bags of sawdust for the rhetorical blood that will be on the debate room floor…and it won’t be ours that needs sopping up.
While i’m upset that it was removed of course…
I think it’s pretty exiting that this content was found ANYWHERE even related to the UNODC at ANY time hahaha
When our government allowed the 2009 opium crop in Afghanistan’s “Happy Valley”to be sold on the black market last spring,it told the world that they were not the zero-tolerance country that rammed the war on drugs down their throat. We are not the only country that spends beyond their budget fighting drugs.
The only acceptable strategy for the US to have taken in the opium crop fiasco would have been for them to purchase the entire crop and napalmed it,right there. They claimed that they didn’t want to alienate the farmers,but those farmers would not have cared where their money came from.
When they failed to destroy 80% of the worlds opium crop,they screwed the pooch. And all that opium and the heroin derived from it,was turned loose on the world
and it’s children. And opiates are a drug that kills,
with the highest addiction level and harshest withdrawal side effects of any drug.
If they had done it right,they could have sold tickets to the 2010 crop burning,and lets see how they handle the 2010 crop. I have en seeing news stories about the US troops destroying poppy fields over there,but will it be as it is here,will they just get 10% or 20% of the crop or just wait and buy the whole crop and do it right this time.
cool… drug policy reform thugs… cigs rolled up in t-shirt sleeves, words dripping like blood from a recently used knife… when words and ideas are a threat, that which is threatened is near its end.
I had to copy these pages(UNODC before and after) for future use. Not much else to comment about that. They screwed up , we know it we have the evidence and wont let them live it down.
Ok ..Clay..If I get these wrong sorry. Your saying they could have bought and torched the feilds. Yes you are correct but, Arent pain killers such as oxycontin made from poppies?If true, Now wouldnt the big pharms be upset that thier supply would be decreased? And how does all that heroine get to our shores? CIA? Just sayin.
Allan420..I too think the end is near. Ideas and words …lol…havent they always been more powerful than nations or armies?Gee ..arent we in luck…in spades…
They could have withheld the 20% of the crop that is used every year to make the medicines. And what upset all our allies is that they realize that for the sale of that opium crop too have been allowed could only have been approved of,if some of the big money people were involved.
They know that it is not poor people buying tons of opium
or truck fulls of marijuana,any more than there are 20 semis loaded with $100 bills crossing our borders,every day.
“…sends “the wrong message to the general public,†the report said.”
I thought, as reformers, we WERE the General Public! So, UNODC has thrown down the gauntlet and declared the reform movement the “enemy?” It’s not just reformers who are voting to pass these initiatives. It’s also the “general public.”
The United Nations Office of Dinosaur Committees has reached the end of it’s time. UNODC no longer worries about leaders. They fear the true power of the People. And that’s a power they can’t control.
And notice that every prohibitionist institution lies and conceals the truth at every turn – why? Because prohibition of cannabis is based on lies.
In religious terms, who is the father of all lies? And therefore whose servants are the prohibitionists?
I think I’m gonna have to write another Oped… “Drug War Cowards” or something along those lines… keep holding their feet to the fire folks, it’s crap like this that totally deserves outing. They cinch their own noose tighter…
What was it Robert Ingersoll, first head of the DEA, said? “Not only are we here to protect the public from vicious criminals in the street but also to protect the public from harmful ideas.”
That’s the kind of mentality we’re facing. ” When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, ‘This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know,’ the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything —you can’t conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him.” R. A. Heinlein from “If This Goes on…”
And that’s just what the opposition does. Lie through their teeth, oppress and kill, and when challenged, claim they did it for your benefit because their motives were pure…never seeing the irony of it all.
Are we seeing a patern here folks? Not just fron the UNODC but the DEA, FBI, CIA and any other alfabets orgs you can think of. Its lies, deception and fear mongering. The more they fear lose of power and control over the masses the more shit hits thier fan. This phenomenom isnt just limited to our country. There are power brokers all over the world struggling to control all. Maybe its just me but , it seems to be expanding and excellerating.
….divadab has a good point..so whos thier master….
When will people conquer their fear and pull thier heads out of the sand?
“Its lies, deception and fear mongering. The more they fear lose of power and control over the masses the more shit hits thier fan.”
As was demonstrated with the UNODC, once something’s on the Internet, it’s forever. Fact-checking is only a mouse-click and search-engine away. Which just goes to show how woefully behind the times such organizations are.
It’s also indicative of just how plastic they believe truth to be. To think that with an edit or deletion such groups can create their own reality without being called out for their dishonesty goes to show how inherently untrustworthy they really are. Anyone who gives credence to anything the UNODC says after this courts being branded an imbecile.
When I sent the ONDCP a copy of the gold standard studies the other day,I got a recommendation to use marinol for any treatment requiring marijuana. They said they have issues with recent studies done using smoked marijuana.
And that is the way they are going to act about any scientific study or research that shows marijuana has medical applications. All they have to say is that they have issues and it refutes any study,without any other recourse to go too.
We are going to have to take control of marijuana away from our government and the cartels,one state at a time.
aaah… gotta love the irony in this, considering the topic here:
Canada: UN Watchdog Targets Canada’s Medical Pot Rules
This is hilarious!
Suddenly, all this States Rights, Constitutionality and Voters Rights have sprung up in front of the UNODC and they can’t quite figure it out. After all, it’s a totally new concept for the democracy-loving UN.
And what is it that the UNODC has to say? “We don’t like what we’re hearing. They’re using the C-word, the D-word and, most horribly, the L-word. We can’t allow the public to hear such words.”
And people say “what can I do? I’m only one person.” This week has shown us all what can be done and it don’t take much, that’s for sure.
“We are going to have to take control of marijuana away from our government and the cartels,one state at a time.
Absolutely , These folks In the UN realize , as our leaders do , that prohibition is a major tool for suppressing freedom. Those powerful forces around the world will not give up that tool for it benefits them . Dump the UN , they are just a parasite created by elitist to further world control into their hands.
It’s also indicative of just how plastic they believe truth to be. To think that with an edit or deletion such groups can create their own reality without being called out for their dishonesty goes to show how inherently untrustworthy they really are. Anyone who gives credence to anything the UNODC says after this courts being branded an imbecile.
Its very disturbing to me that the truth is being disposed of as it is. Today we see government “leaders”
Spouting nonsense and touting it as truth even as we the poeple reject it in mass , they force it down our throats.Its leaving a very bad taste , a taste of tyranny. The UN and its elitist are parroting this same taste , changing truth and history as it suits them, for thier benefit. I know this cant just be something I see, if so I must be going insane. The question is…where this is leading us….world domination by insanity.
“Half the world has gone insane and expect the other half to quietly follow.
By the way…im sure some of you already know…for those that dont…There is a push in government around the world , in our own as well, to shut down the internet as it is and impliment government control. Those like the UNODC realize now that the internet is a powerful tool to those who wish to be free , they know truth can freely flow here unregulated. Kepp your eyes open people , your freedom of speech is under attack . They dont want us to have the truth , as shown by the UNODC’s blatant deletion of the truth from thier site, or I should attempt to delete.
“And opiates are a drug that kills,
with the highest addiction level and harshest withdrawal side effects of any drug.”
Opiates can only kill when refined into concentrated forms, and even then are not as addictive as the crap that these ‘laws’ were designed to protect: Virginia Dope (Bright Leaf Tobacco with numerious additives increasing house fires and health problems, but allowing that sociopathic state’s industries to see more of this dope).
No legalization sheme ought to permit the sale of such dope without labeling of the ingrediants.